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Poll: Trump dominating Rubio in Florida, Kasich in Ohio
Politico ^ | 3/9/16 | ELIZA COLLINS

Posted on 03/09/2016 5:54:29 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: af_vet_1981

He says he’d rather be governor of OH.


21 posted on 03/09/2016 6:24:39 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Remember Rubio only lied to English speaking audiences about amnesty.
He promised amnesty to Spanish speaking audiences from day one of his senate campaign and the videos of those speeches were a topic of many Free Republic threads at the time.

The only people he ever fooled were the ones who outright refused to listen to what people were telling them about Rubio’s intentions.


22 posted on 03/09/2016 6:26:29 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Helotes
I know it's difficult for those of you who have been emotionally and financially invested in Cruz for so long, but you need to move on. Putting Neil Bush on his campaign staff is just one misstep too many, in a year when candidates need to prove their "outsider" credentials.

Cruz won't be President. With a well-chosen judge, all hillary has to do is put Cruz's Natural Born Citizen status in question.

23 posted on 03/09/2016 6:27:26 AM PST by grania
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To: pburgh01

Trump is at an estimated 461 now, but let’s play a game of “what if”.

(The scenario below is completely for fun and playing with the numbers. They aren’t wishful thinking or a prediction.)

Let’s say Trump wins Ohio and Florida, that gives him 165 votes. Let’s say he comes in second in NC with 37% of the vote to Cruz at 41%. Then he comes in second in Missouri to Cruz, 36% to 39% , but wins 3 of the 8 congressional districts. Then he looses again to Cruz in a squeaker in Illinois 43% to 42%, and carries 9 of 18 Congressional districts. What does that do to his numbers and Cruz’s numbers?

Lets do the math!

Trump = 461 + 165 (FL,OH) + 51 (NC) + 15 (MO) + 27 (IL) = 719

Cruz = 360 + 57 (NC) + 37 (MO) + 39 (IL) = 493


Still a really, really good set up for Trump, but clearly not a knock out blow again. In fact, the above scenario sets him behind the curve on where he needs to be.

And that is assuming he picks up Ohio, where Kasich is within striking distance. Will Rubio’s collapse send enough of his voters to Kasich to make up the difference? That is a very intriguing question and it will be interesting to see the polls this week.


24 posted on 03/09/2016 6:34:56 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: luvbach1
He says he’d rather be governor of OH.

At this point, while he's running for President and his state hasn't voted yet, what would you expect him to say ? It's his best answer at this point. It increases his political value.

25 posted on 03/09/2016 6:37:02 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: pepsi_junkie; All
Lying to voters about being against amnesty then sponsoring it as the only significant thing he did in the Senate was a bad choice. . . .

Far worse than a "bad choice." It's the single, most important thing he's done. It convinced me that he's nothing but a lying little backstabbing creep. At that point all of his faux "conservative" rhetoric meant, and means, nothing to me. He's no longer a legitimate candidate, period. If Chris Christie were still running and the race came down to him and the Rube, I'd vote for Christie.

26 posted on 03/09/2016 6:38:09 AM PST by libstripper
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To: af_vet_1981

I agree with your post #25.


27 posted on 03/09/2016 6:38:13 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: libstripper

I agree. My wife has been on the fence about Rubio because she worries Trump is too uncouth. I tell her all the time “his only accomplishment is lying about his core values in order to get elected. I can never trust him, ever.” I think she’s come around, or at least given up hope that Rubio can “save” us from Trump.


28 posted on 03/09/2016 6:41:12 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Politics: from the greek "poly" [many] and the english "ticks" [blood sucking parasites])
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To: Helotes
This Cruz supporter thinks less of Kasich than Jeb Bush.

Kasich needs to get out of the way and drop out.

Most of the rest of the primaries are winner-take-all. Cruz needs to win California and Pennsylvania and a bunch of the western states.

Here is the county map right now. Trump's area of support (blue) is about equal to that of Cruz (gold):


29 posted on 03/09/2016 6:45:27 AM PST by kidd
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To: jimbo123

The real question is why is Kasich still running?

Nearly half the States have voted?

Does Kasich really believe by winning his home state of Ohio is going to suddenly changed the rest of the country to go all in on Kasich?

Kasich is 100% Establishment/Globcalist, but I guess he still thinks he can slip in the VP spot?

If you are happy with the direction of the country over the last 8 years, then Kasich is your man.


30 posted on 03/09/2016 6:45:37 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

What happens to Rubio delegates if he drops out?


31 posted on 03/09/2016 6:48:34 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: MNDude

“Yet, the GOPe meme continues to be “We must pick a different nominee, because Trump a majority of voters are voting against him!” “


Real great logic there on the part of the GOPe: Trump gets 40%, so 60% are against him. Yeah, well what about the fact that Cruz gets 20% - that means that 80% are against him. Clearly, whomever thought up that meme didn’t think that one through. Trump, himself, mentioned that at a debate and instantly shut Cruz up.


32 posted on 03/09/2016 6:48:44 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: luckystarmom

If he “suspends” his campaign, they remain his at the convention, bound to vote for him on the first ballot. If he officially withdraws or officially releases his delegates, they can vote for whoever they want starting on the first ballot.


33 posted on 03/09/2016 6:51:13 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: luckystarmom

State rules apply. Some states bind them regardless, some states allow them to be free agents, etc. They definitely are in no way subject to the whim of the former candidate.


34 posted on 03/09/2016 6:53:31 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ancesthntr

The other thing I’ve seen is that Trump is the number 2 choice for at least half of the people that voted for other candidates.

I doubt Jeb Bush was the number two choice for many voters.


35 posted on 03/09/2016 6:55:24 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Fallacious argument there. The important question is, to whom would Rubio and Kasich supporters go if they drop out. The fact that 60% are not currently voting for Trump and 80% are not voting for Cruz has absolutely nothing to do with who those voters would vote for, with Rubio and Kasich out of the race. I believe recent polling has shown the vast majority would go to Cruz, not Trump. I do believe there is indeed a Trump “ceiling” of around 40 to 45%. The only way we will know is if Rubio and Kasich are out.


36 posted on 03/09/2016 6:56:51 AM PST by mtrott
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To: luvbach1
I agree with you, but Donald has “burned bridges” with almost all of the potential VP possibilities.

Actually, Trump counter-punched their lights out.

37 posted on 03/09/2016 6:58:06 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: mtrott

Well, many folks foolishly believe Cruz is a ‘Spirit filled’ Christian and is ‘America first’ like Reagan.


38 posted on 03/09/2016 7:00:26 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: jimbo123

I hear that Rubio is going to run 3rd party, on the Foam Party ticket.


39 posted on 03/09/2016 7:00:36 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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40 posted on 03/09/2016 7:02:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper (I am undecided between Cruz, Rubio & Trump...)
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