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Surprise! NSA data will soon routinely be used for domestic policing that has nothing to do
Washington Post ^ | 3/10/16 | Radley Balko

Posted on 03/10/2016 4:43:51 PM PST by Nachum

Edited on 03/10/2016 7:23:37 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

What does this rule change mean for you? In short, domestic law enforcement officials now have access to huge troves of American communications, obtained without warrants, that they can use to put people in cages. FBI agents don’t need to have any “national security” related reason to plug your name, email address, phone number, or other “selector” into the NSA’s gargantuan data trove. They can simply poke around in your private information in the course of totally routine investigations. And if they find something that suggests, say, involvement in illegal drug activity, they can send that information to local or state police. That means information the NSA collects for purposes of so-called “national security” will be used by police to lock up ordinary Americans for routine crimes. And we don’t have to guess who’s going to suffer this unconstitutional indignity the most brutally. It’ll be Black, Brown, poor, immigrant, Muslim, and dissident Americans: the same people who are always targeted by law enforcement for extra “special” attention.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nsa; privacy; surveillance
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To: BeauBo

LOL. Only in fairy tale land.

The primary and secondary missions of the FBI are protection of and increasing the power of...the FBI.

F. Justice, F. the Law, F. the Constitution.

Foreign agents? How about Hussein Odinga? Hitlery? Huma? and 911 others?

No criminal violates Justice like the FBI does every day.


61 posted on 03/10/2016 5:38:46 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: BeauBo
...and are not supposed to use them in domestic criminal investigations.

Oh brother, fairy tale land again.

62 posted on 03/10/2016 5:44:26 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly, exactly, exactly.


63 posted on 03/10/2016 5:46:24 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Nachum

Somebody tell Chris Christie. /s


64 posted on 03/10/2016 5:48:06 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Nachum

I just keep getting reminded why I regret ever voting for a Bush.


65 posted on 03/10/2016 5:51:57 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
They would have had Hillary's classified information emails from her private server as well as emails to her from some unsavory people

They would have also read Huma Abedin's emails which should prove to be very interesting re the Moslem Brotherhood, etc.

What makes you think they haven't?

66 posted on 03/10/2016 5:53:42 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: WENDLE
This will be stopped under Trump.

Cruz and Paul are the only candidates who have come out against NSA data collection.

67 posted on 03/10/2016 5:57:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: DesertRhino
"...Enjoy it while you can boys, this happy time isn’t forever."

No it isn't. But this is:

~Romans 14:10-12:

But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

That is forever!

68 posted on 03/10/2016 6:02:29 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Nachum

Beelzebama says “spread tyranny throughout the land”..


69 posted on 03/10/2016 6:12:50 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Carry_Okie

WISHIN’ AND HOPING’


70 posted on 03/10/2016 6:38:00 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Nachum

Did Radley Balko give a flip about Tea Party members being targeted by the IRS?


71 posted on 03/10/2016 8:03:22 PM PST by GOPJ (Republican elites have turned into " race-baiting bigots" - feeding on mob mentality.)
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To: GOPJ
Did Radley Balko give a flip about Tea Party members being targeted by the IRS?

Actually, he would. The guy is a libertarian, not a leftist.

72 posted on 03/10/2016 10:53:43 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
WISHIN' AND HOPING’

Is one of your hands feeling a little warm?

73 posted on 03/10/2016 10:54:42 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: null and void; Old Sarge; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...

Back to the thread.

In a ruling last month, Federal Court Judge John Gleeson has become the first to admit the existence of the NSA’s infamous PRISM program by name, according to documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLUO.)

PRISM, as you’ll recall, was a program that gained a fair bit of notoriety after Edward Snowden’s 2013 document leaks were made public. The program allowed “collection [of user] data directly from the server’s” of American tech companies, like Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo, Apple, Google, AOL and others.

The companies in question have all spoken out saying, to their knowledge, none gave the NSA such access.

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/10/a-federal-judge-just-blew-the-cover-off-the-nsas-worst-kept-secret/

74 posted on 03/10/2016 11:15:56 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Nachum

Just imagine what historical despots, tyrants, and totalitarians could have done with today’s tech, because, barring some major incident, the next one will have the stuff they could only dream of for rooting out opposition.


75 posted on 03/10/2016 11:25:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: realcleanguy
Open your eyes. Totalitarians are where you find them.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

CS Lewis

Beware those too quick to call you 'brother'.

76 posted on 03/10/2016 11:29:07 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: WENDLE
This will be stopped under Trump.

If that comes to pass, I hope so. However, in that case, I lack your faith.

77 posted on 03/10/2016 11:31:53 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Impy

‘Cruz and Paul are the only candidates who have come out against NSA data collection.’

Good point. Trump is more anti-terrorism oriented. Clear difference. When it comes to data-mining non-muslims I disagree with Trump.


78 posted on 03/11/2016 1:55:21 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: Nachum; SunkenCiv

Important find, nachum!

Wading through the Washington Compost. What a patriot!


79 posted on 03/11/2016 1:56:30 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: Nachum
And we don’t have to guess who’s going to suffer this unconstitutional indignity the most brutally. It’ll be Black, Brown, poor, immigrant, Muslim, and dissident Americans

Errr.....wellll...no.

Not with the racist "Just US" thugs we have in control at the levers of law enforcement and the courts today.

No too much "diversity" in this photo, is there?

And look the tyrannical fascism they employ:

Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Anti-Muslim Speech

US Attorney General: We’ve ‘Discussed’ Prosecuting Climate Change Deniers

The groups that will be persecuted and prosecuted are Christians, Veterans, Americans of European descent, Libertarians, Conservatives, Gun Owners, Pro-Lifers, Constitutionalists, Patriots, Climate Change "Deniers", and those who oppose unrestricted Illegal Immigration and the coming Globalist System.

80 posted on 03/11/2016 2:50:37 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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