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The Supreme Court Just Smacked Down A Terrible Anti-Gun Ruling
Federalist, the ^ | 22 March 2016

Posted on 03/22/2016 3:20:41 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: jessduntno

“A judge at the time ruled that Caetano’s decision to carry a stun gun was illegal because the Second Amendment right to bear arms only applies to the types of weapons commonly used at the time the amendment was ratified.”

In those days the people had the same arms as the military. I want my M-60!


41 posted on 03/22/2016 4:53:48 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: jessduntno

“it’s china town” err Massachusetts


42 posted on 03/22/2016 5:01:05 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: Lorianne

bttt


43 posted on 03/22/2016 5:19:15 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Ouderkirk

The lefties have always trotted out the muzzle-loading flintlock musket thing as what the framer’s intent was regards to firearms and the firearms covered by their intent.

So this idiot judge throws that line into his opinion and figures that if it was upheld, then he will have put into precedent the concept of the firearms available in 1787.


44 posted on 03/22/2016 6:19:05 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Inyo-Mono

“So under this reasoning, I can carry a loaded flintlock pistol with me anywhere?”

Why limit yourself? Why not a tomahawk and a sword cane?


45 posted on 03/22/2016 6:33:39 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I do have an authentic 18th Century tomahawk.


46 posted on 03/22/2016 6:54:41 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

Tomahawks and swords are very effective sidearms.

They beat nearly all knives, and they are clearly covered by the Second Amendment.

I have often thought that an effective case for the Second Amendment could be made with a sword.


47 posted on 03/22/2016 7:12:23 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Ouderkirk

The lefties have always trotted out the muzzle-loading flintlock musket thing as what the framer’s intent was regards to firearms and the firearms covered by their intent.

So this idiot judge throws that line into his opinion and figures that if it was upheld, then he will have put into precedent the concept of the firearms available in 1787.


48 posted on 03/22/2016 7:15:52 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: TigersEye

The lefties have always trotted out the muzzle-loading flintlock musket thing as what the framer’s intent was regards to firearms and the firearms covered by their intent.

So this idiot judge throws that line into his opinion and figures that if it was upheld, then he will have put into precedent the concept of the firearms available in 1787.


49 posted on 03/22/2016 7:16:24 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk
The lefties have always trotted out the muzzle-loading flintlock musket thing as what the framer’s intent was regards to firearms and the firearms covered by their intent.

So this idiot judge throws that line into his opinion and figures that if it was upheld, then he will have put into precedent the concept of the firearms available in 1787.

With not a clue that there were multi fire flintlocks at the time and anyone could own a cannon and anything else the military used.

50 posted on 03/22/2016 7:23:36 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

In 1787 private armies were not uncommon.

I’ve never understood the rational that the 2nd amendment only covers the things available in 1787. A firearm still operates on the same principle as it did in 1787. Combustible material ignited in a confined space ejecting a projectile out of a single orifice, where the outside diameter of the projectile is only nominally smaller than the inside diameter of the orifice.

the other capacities, such as repeating, semi-automatic, and fully automatic are mechanical systems, external to the initial thermo-mechanics.


51 posted on 03/22/2016 7:35:54 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

True, the only difference between my flintlock and 1911 is the ignition system.


52 posted on 03/22/2016 7:52:04 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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Had the SCOTUS not slapped down the lower court, the case could then be made that no forms of electronic communications would be covered under the 1st Amendment.

Mark


53 posted on 03/22/2016 8:29:32 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Aiyeeeeeeeee

Go wash your mind out with soap! Lye soap.


54 posted on 03/22/2016 8:53:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I see, the ruling was the test. He failed!


55 posted on 03/22/2016 8:54:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Should be able to carry or drag a mounted cannon also as that was common in that era also.


56 posted on 03/22/2016 8:56:54 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: marktwain; Inyo-Mono
I'm getting a little old to wield one effectively
but I've always wanted to own a Claymore.


57 posted on 03/22/2016 9:08:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Lazamataz

Just wondering why SCOTUS sent it back for a rehearing as opposed to just ruling on it.


58 posted on 03/23/2016 6:55:03 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Lorianne

The short-term end result is meaningless because the Masshole politicians will now classify stun-guns as hand guns, subject to the same rules, regulations, requirements, and permit discretion in this “may-carry” state, which means that the average law abiding citizens will not be able to carry a stun gun to protect themselves.


59 posted on 03/23/2016 7:16:06 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

“The short-term end result is meaningless because the Masshole politicians will now classify stun-guns as hand guns, subject to the same rules, regulations, requirements, and permit discretion in this “may-carry” state, which means that the average law abiding citizens will not be able to carry a stun gun to protect themselves.”

That seems a plausible response, but they will have to pass legislation to do it.

Some places, such as New York, have built considerable opposition to an existing knife ban, for example.

Passing more legislation to replace all of these bans with comparable licensing schemes will be difficult.


60 posted on 03/23/2016 9:58:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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