Posted on 03/28/2016 7:54:16 PM PDT by annalex
I've heard him say many times, he doesn't blame the other guys.
He says they are smart negotiators.
He places the blame for the bad trade and other deals, at the feet of stupid negotiators for the US.
Thanks for your reply.
I’m referring to his plan to raise tarriffs - up to 40% on Japanese cars.
Japan is not the reason U.S. car makers don’t make better cars; they’re not victims.
And raising the price of autos for Americans is not going to cause U.S. manufacturers to make better cars.
It’s the same as an auto company bailout - which Trump also supported.
Trump is not addressing the real problems, he’s pointing the finger at ‘bad guys’ who are victimizing us.
thanks again.
It might be more gradual than that. Trump, for sure is not really a conservative; he is a pragmatic nationalist. And he is building, often awkwardly, on the foundation laid by Perot, Buchanan and the Tea Party, and of them only Buchanan is a cultural conservative. But they all had no trouble embracing cultural conservatism; they all would easily mesh in with religious people and pro-life people, for example.
In short, I don't think one can separate nationalism from conservatism. I think that the DC-based GOP open market advocates and the GOP moneyed elite are quite foreign to conservatism, while the nationalists are not. At least the nationalist can easily spell out what is it they want to conserve: our nation, while the establishment GOP wants to conserve some abstractions they themselves have a hard time articulating (in that part, they are quite like the Dems).
Like, I am all for freedom to trade anything for anything between consenting and honest adults; where is that in our "free trade" with China and Mexico that is all negotiated between governments and made possible through tax and tariff policy you and I don't control?
Yes, in theory you have to be for more. Human rights, for sure, even for non-nationals. You have to be respecting other nations symmetrically. You have to respect rules of war.
I am focusing on what is most lacking in our Fatherland (being an immigrant, I choose the word deliberately).
I’d be careful about believing the dudes who hold up the cardboard signs.
It’s pretty typical of Chronicles.
Thanks for your reply:
>>>Yes, in theory you have to be for more. Human rights, for sure, even for non-nationals. You have to be respecting other nations symmetrically. You have to respect rules of war.
I think in more than theory. And I think you have to be for a true republican form of government, small central government; you have to be for liberty and freedom *from* government; for the rule of law, not men.
I am for the America our fathers founded and protected. The one that is in grave danger now; not from without, but from within. I don’t see Trump’s nationalism addressing the real problems at all.
He is a nationalist, but nationalism, by itself, is not for or against any of the things I listed. It is just for nationalism. It can be against some or all of these.
It is not enough.
It would be good indeed if I could go to a car dealership in America and negotiate with the Toyota representative the price of a Camry directly, tax and tariff free, my wallet to Toyota wallet.
That way, if Toyota has a comparative advantage, it will make more sales and if not, Ford will make more sales.
But I don't get to negotiate with Toyota. I get a feeling that I am negotiating, but the real price brackets are defined between the US government and the Japan's government. That is not free trade. I love Camrys. But I don't know if the price I love them at is defined by the features and the quality or by the hidden subsidy some economic traitor had put in and did not tell me. If my 30k Camry were really a 60K Camry had my government had a different negotiating template, would I not choose a VW? Or a Ford? Or a Tesla?
>>if Toyota has a comparative advantage, it will make more sales and if not, Ford will make more sales.
That’s the free market. I’m all for it. Not for taking from Americans who choose to buy cars other than Fords and give it to Ford.
>>>But I don’t get to negotiate with Toyota
You get to anytime you enter a Toyota dealership.
But whatever you think you could do to penalize Japanese car makers, do you think that would make U.S. automakers produce better cars? Just the opposite, it would support inferior quality U.S. autos.
Toyota’s holding the back?
Did you support the auto bailouts too?
It’s the same thing.
Sorry, typo, should have been:
Toyota’s holding them back?
When I enter the dealership I am choosing a collective product of Toyota motor company, plus of the Japanese government, plus of the US government. Together they produced the Camry. It is not a result of free trade where Toyota would come to Anytown, US, lease a show room and a parking lot and start selling cars. It is a result of taxation policies and negotiated tariffs in which I did not participate at all. If you want free trade and small government at this point, you would be nationalist.
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