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Wisconsin meltdown puts Trump on track for convention fight [Manafort threatening to quit]
Politico ^ | 04/06/2016 | Eli Stokols

Posted on 04/06/2016 8:41:43 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: arl295
Nice retort, you back the guy that gave tons of money to libs like Al Sharpton and praises Planned Parenthood.

Square that circle for me please in straight forward conservative language...

41 posted on 04/06/2016 9:08:26 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; RoosterRedux; Rufus Shinra; USS Alaska; SoothingDave; Slyfox; orinoco; ...
See my post #26. Be of good cheer. :)

BTW, SoothingDave, Slyfox & beandog - I got a new nickname for your guy Cruz, in light of what the Uniparty did in Wisconsin:

The Unipatsy. :)

42 posted on 04/06/2016 9:08:40 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: Artcore

I think the “meltdown” was the odd campaign statement.
In politics things are ultimately judged by their results. If Trump picks up enough delegates to win then he is doing it right. If he fails to win on the first ballot and sees his delegates melt away then he chose poorly.


43 posted on 04/06/2016 9:08:49 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: GIdget2004

I want to see Trump win, but I don’t think either man on his team is going to make a whole lot of difference. Maybe some, but not much because I think Trump burned a couple of major bridges.

1) He shouldn’t have sent that re-tweet of Cruz’s wife...the ugly woman. Trump was already on the edge with women, and there are a lot of ugly, but good women out there. Unfortunately, too many of them identified with that tweet.

2) If that wasn’t enough, he followed that up by wobbling on his pro-life stance. There are MORE prolife people than prodeath. He should have held a strictly pro-life stance. He’s talked about the rule of law, but then wobbled about who should be penalized for violating laws against abortion. People didn’t hear the words ‘’illegal’’ abortion just like they don’t hear ‘’illegal’’ immigrant.

3) He said he’d stand by Lewendowski, but then shuffled him to the back of the line, and put another in his place the very next day. Will he do that to America, too, after saying he’d defend us?

Trump is not politically correct, and I get that. However, bull in a china shop that he is, he’s failed to learn political finesse which is a tad bit different from political correctness.

I might be completely wrong in my assessment, but that’s what it looks like to me from the outside.

On the other hand, nobody expected to see him win Wisconsin, and I think I heard that North Dakota is a weak spot for him as well. I AM suspicious about the USB stick in the voting machines as reported by someone who does the work at one of the polling places. I have to wonder how many of those places had the usb stick inserted into the computer, and produced Cruz wins, and how many didn’t have the usb stick which produced Trump wins. Did it happen at only high populace areas?

One other thing that does bother me about Trump is his running off at the mouth about his suspicions without having solid stuff to back him up. If he had solid info to back him up, then by all means let the mouth run, but if not, then do something different.

With that said, I do hope things begin to perk up for him. He needs to pull bigger percentages in the big states that he does expect to win.


44 posted on 04/06/2016 9:09:03 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (Lyin' Ted scruze Cruz...)
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To: kiryandil
Interesting. The other and simpler explanation is that there was a last minute defection of Kasich supporters to Cruz.

As I recall, Kasich was consistently polling in the low 20% range. He ended up with just 14%.

45 posted on 04/06/2016 9:09:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: GIdget2004

Once Trump smokes Cruz in NY will “sources” be saying the same thing about Ted Cruz’s campaign?


46 posted on 04/06/2016 9:09:11 AM PDT by McGruff (The Republican elite would rather see Hillary Clinton president than Donald Trump.)
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To: fatez

tRump invited the Clintons to his third wedding also.

It’s good to be a tRumpster. Where Wisconsin is now a liberal state and New York is now a conservative state.


47 posted on 04/06/2016 9:09:33 AM PDT by beandog (Trump and his supporters have to take the elevator up to even reach the gutter.)
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To: GIdget2004

Good. The sooner Trump is gone, the better. It really seems as if Trump is just on a kamikaze mission to inflict as much damage to the Republican Party as possible anyway, to make way for his friends Clinton, Schumer, and Pelosi. Trump seems to hate really hate conservatives Republicans. He goes after them with a real viciousness.


48 posted on 04/06/2016 9:09:44 AM PDT by KansasGirl (So proud to say, "I voted for Ted Cruz!")
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To: fatez

He gave money to your liberal as well


49 posted on 04/06/2016 9:11:06 AM PDT by arl295
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To: Responsibility2nd

I doubt very much he’s lost his touch.

I do believe that he didn’t expect this thing to gel as it has, and as a corollary, for the artillery leveled at him to be 24/7 with venomous intensity. There’s nothing he could have done about Utah or Wisconsin. And rightly or wrongly, its not absurd to assume that most votes wins, not most votes gets fewer delegates unless you are in with the in crowd.

Lessons are being learned and he’ll cash the ticket or they aren’t being learned and it will all have been for naught. If he figures out how to do the politico business better than the seasoned hands in just a few months at the highest level there is, for one fifth of the cost, it’ll say a lot about not losing his touch.


50 posted on 04/06/2016 9:11:48 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: beandog

Yes I noticed that a lot Trumpsters keep saying today that Wisconsin is GOPe. Yet just one year ago quite a few Trumpsters loved Scott Walker who has done wonderful things for Wisconsin. Now Scott Walker is GOPe even though he crushed the teachers unions and lowered taxes, one of which Trump dissed...


51 posted on 04/06/2016 9:12:14 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: Vigilanteman
I get my deductions from the 2008 and 2016 DEMOCRAT primaries. Both were hotly contested. The 2012 Wisconsin primaries were a shoo-in for Barry, but were a medium fight for the Republicans.

100,000 votes "evaporated" from the Democrat totals in 2008.

I think they showed up in the Milwaukee area counties, under the Cruz column. Yeah, that's it! THAT'S the ticket!

The Big City SUDDENLY went "Evangelical". LOL!

52 posted on 04/06/2016 9:13:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: arl295

Yes arlie, I am sure you hated Cruz just 24 months ago when he stood up to Obama on immigration while Trump was meeting with Dreamers....


53 posted on 04/06/2016 9:13:20 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: GIdget2004

Infighting among your top subordinates is a sure way to lose.


54 posted on 04/06/2016 9:13:29 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: fatez

One year ago Walker was what we had to settle for. A better option showed up and the GOP circled the wagons to crush him. Walker sided with the GOP because he needs to get out of debt.


55 posted on 04/06/2016 9:14:24 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: fatez

Cruz did not stand up to anyone

Trump bought your liberal as well

Like you said, he is good at buying liberals


56 posted on 04/06/2016 9:14:33 AM PDT by arl295
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Blast “Teddy Bear” all you want for colluding with the GOP-e; but the fact is - that worked. “

Good boy.

Get back under daddy Mitt’s table, and try to keep your “I’m a true conservative” barking to a minimum, the real power is trying to work up here”.


57 posted on 04/06/2016 9:15:53 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Responsibility2nd

“If Trump is such a hot shot “Art of the Deal” power broker ...”

The dealing is not over with yet. Cards are still hidden.


58 posted on 04/06/2016 9:16:13 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: arl295

You know calling Cruz slimy actually may be true. Calling Cruz a liar may also be. Calling him a liberal, especially compared to the militant RINO Trump is just bizarre...


59 posted on 04/06/2016 9:16:16 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: GIdget2004

I would say that for a rookie politician beating out 15 other career experienced candidates....hes doing pretty good!


60 posted on 04/06/2016 9:16:44 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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