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Let's Settle This: Debate Suggested Over GOP Primary, Caucus & Convention System and Rules
Self ^ | 15 April 2016 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 04/15/2016 9:46:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: jimpick

Good, clear posting about the false accusations being made against Cruz!


41 posted on 04/15/2016 10:39:45 PM PDT by octex
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To: Just mythoughts

Are you slow. I am in Michigan and had no part in the Colorado delegate selection. I mention it in one of the above posts.

You are also blind to the reality of what happened in Colorado. Public perception has nothing to do with whether it was legal or not.

Trying to carry on a conversation with people who can not get past there bias like you is pointless. Cruz did not create the problem in Colorado whether he benefited from it or not.

I am done talking with you it is pointless.


42 posted on 04/15/2016 10:40:16 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I realized that what you were proposing was totally devoid of substance! That is was the mental masturbation of someone so consumed with the political process that they couldn’t understand the current political situation, or make a reasoned appraisal of the true players in this Presidential campaign.

“You’re Stuck on STUPID!” seemed to be a concise way to say that. ;-)


43 posted on 04/15/2016 10:41:01 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: jimpick
If you dont like that start another party or take them over.

That's what's about to happen. The Republican party as we have known it will be dead after this year's convention.

The old guard is on its way out.

The GOP really will be a bigger tent now, without ifnoring its conservative roots.

Indeed, the GOP may finally have a chance to return to those roots that have been totally abandoned in the last couple of decades.

The DC Establishment of both parties must be shaken to its core. It's a Revolutionary process that only Donald Trump can lead at this point in history.

Ted Cruz has proven his unsuitability for the job.

It's too bad. He could have been Trump's VP an stepped in after a term or two.

But Ted Cruz sold his soul in exchange for a GOPe mirage.

The People don't want Ted Cruz, and, fortunately, they're not going to get him...

44 posted on 04/15/2016 10:42:55 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Posted on another thread. This would be an interesting debate topic.

There seems to be a fair amount of smoke coming from this dung heap. ;-)
- - - - -
A look at Ted Cruz PAC filings (Keep The Promise I & Keep The Promise PAC) turns up expenses totaling $8,467,466.00 to a company out of Plano Texas called Rigel Strategies LLC. Below is a screenshot of just a small sample of the payments Keep The Promise I has paid to Rigel Strategies, LLC.

Rigel Strategies, LLC is owned by a man named Dennis Sternitzky. Sternitzky is the only employee of Rigel Strategies, LLC from extensive research. Sternitzky is a former sales rep for Salem Communications (now known as Salem Media Group), which owns 117 radio stations across the United States. Salem also owns the website Red State which puts on the “Red State Gathering” that is hosted by Erick Erickson. The Red State Gathering notoriously banned Donald Trump from appearing at it’s latest get together in Denver Colorado.

When Sternitzky founded Rigell Strategies, LLC he began pushing a different kind of marketing he calls, “Embedded Marketing”. Sternitzky quotes Michael Margolis, “If you want to learn about a culture, listen to the stories…if you want to change the culture, change the stories.” In short, Sternitzky’s marketing plan is to pay hosts to promote brands, campaigns, etc. during their show which is perfectly legal, AS LONG AS IT’S DISCLOSED to the public.

According to Sternitzky’s LinkedIn Profile, he was the National Account Manager for Salem Communications (syndicator for Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Erick Erickson and Hugh Hewitt) from August 2005 to August 2011. Before that Sternitzky worked for Premeire Radio Networks (syndicator for Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Meghan McCain).


45 posted on 04/15/2016 10:43:31 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: jimpick
Are you slow. I am in Michigan and had no part in the Colorado delegate selection. I mention it in one of the above posts. You are also blind to the reality of what happened in Colorado. Public perception has nothing to do with whether it was legal or not. Trying to carry on a conversation with people who can not get past there bias like you is pointless. Cruz did not create the problem in Colorado whether he benefited from it or not. I am done talking with you it is pointless.

Why are you defending the Colorado GOP? The GOP is rotten and crooked from the bottom up and top down. It is under their party that has given Obama every single thing he has requested.. The GOP cannot write Obama's checks fast enough and they are shipping in his Syrian 'warriors' regardless of what we the people say about it.

Your 'legal' comment reminds me of algore's 'no controlling legal authority'.

46 posted on 04/15/2016 10:45:24 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: jimpick

You should consider getting people to vote for your candidate.


47 posted on 04/15/2016 10:45:39 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: XEHRpa

So far, I like your post best.


48 posted on 04/15/2016 10:47:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SubMareener

Sure, why not. Make it two debates then. One for that, and one before it to deal with Colorado, Wyoming and the whole charge about rigged state procedures in selecting delegates.


49 posted on 04/15/2016 10:49:25 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Trump: The most cruel & sinister joke played on sincere Conservative rank-and-files since Ross Perot)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Not a snowflake’s chance...

If there’s going to be a public trial of the GOP-e, it will be after Trump has taken office as President of the United States.

I’m a bit surprised that a Cruzite would be on-board for Cruz defending the GOP-e. Which he’s supposed to not be a part of. At least, that’s what he told his supporters.


50 posted on 04/15/2016 10:50:35 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: blueplum

The allegatio is that “Lyin Ted” somehow stole delegates. Isnt that the point? Hence you would need a specific airing of the charge by Trump over and above a platitude, but specifics, demanding reply in kind, and then Trump’s campaign also being held accountable for their preparation.


51 posted on 04/15/2016 10:52:37 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Trump: The most cruel & sinister joke played on sincere Conservative rank-and-files since Ross Perot)
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To: SubMareener

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3421467/posts


52 posted on 04/15/2016 10:58:22 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Let’s just see how Donald Trump handles the corruption in the Republican Party and associated establishment. It is a good warmup for handling the corruption in the Federal Government. If he can’t handle the corruption in the GOPee, then he isn’t going to be able to handle the corruption in the Federal Government.

I think he will do just fine, and I am looking forward to finding more slugs and roaches under the rocks Donald Trump turns over on the Road to the White House! ;-)


53 posted on 04/15/2016 11:21:53 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: blueplum

Because Cruz is the GOPee’s Trojan Horse to fool the “true” and “consistent” Conservatives! The only part of this campaign that isn’t a NWO PSYOP is Donald J. Trump. They tried to bribe him with more money for the Apprentice, but it just didn’t work. They will probably try to kill him, but he may be harder to kill that Reagan.

Haven’t you noticed that no weapon formed against Donald Trump has prospered? Why would that be?

Isaiah 54
17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
And their righteousness is from Me,” Says the LORD.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 717). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

Every time Donald Trump says, “I love you!” to a crowd, I am reminded when Jesus said:
John 13
34 “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
35 “By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1047). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.


54 posted on 04/15/2016 11:27:23 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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55 posted on 04/15/2016 11:48:01 PM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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To: LowOiL

Since when does the GOP actively fight against democrats? The GOP reserves thier strongest attacks against reformers, conservitives, and nationalists.


56 posted on 04/16/2016 12:08:35 AM PDT by RedWulf
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To: crz

Such schemes have already failed, and your one delegate per jurisdiction is not proportional to the population of voters. You are effectively disenfranchising millions of Republican voters in such a scheme.


57 posted on 04/16/2016 12:14:24 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The allegation is that the GOPe is as crooked as Lombard Street. Assigning a false sense of urgency for a debate championed by Cruz is just another Cruz strawman because debate skills are all the razzle-dazzle he has left. But the time for debate with Cruz is over. What you’re asking for, is for Trump to submit to being publically put on the defensive - by Cruz - as a way to change the real narrative - that Cruz is the one on the defensive. Won’t happen. And America certainly doesn’t need surrogate Cruz to speak for the GOP-e, after he ran and hid behind Fiorina to change the narrative away from Trump’s wife being objectified to pretend outrage over a retweeted photo of an angry Heidi - as if the two were comparable insults, while exploiting the Fields girl non-incident to create a storyline. Yeah, we got that game. The canaries will sing soon enough. We can wait.

In the meantime, Trump will collect the number of delegates set by the rules committee. And he will win the election. If I were Cruz, I’d be polishing up to defend my junior senate seat and give up on the obsessive behavior towards Trump - and his family members - before the guys in the white jackets show up.

Cruz can still pick up a few financially compensated delegates here and there, but his greed cost him the rules committee. What’s the right word...checkmate?:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/04/trump_and_kasich_bushwhack_cruz_at_michigan_gop_convention.html


58 posted on 04/16/2016 2:06:02 AM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: RedWulf
The GOP reserves thier strongest attacks against reformers, conservitives, and nationalists.

Welcome to FR.

Their.... conservatives... spell check is offered free you know.

The GOP is a diverse group that often at heart is good conservative folks. It of course consists of a mix of folks from moderates to hard core and most of the time it does attack liberals. On the national level it may be different, but I only know locally. I suggest Trump folks actually try to integrate their local GOP groups. Heck locally they beg for people to show up. First Saturday of the month at the local breakfast bar place in town, they welcome all comers to sit and listen to speakers and enjoy a bite of breakfast. Most the time you can pose questions to the speakers, have your input. You don't even have to buy breakfast if you don't care too. Just come and sit down, the coffee is free.

Unfortunately for most Trump fans, hard core conservatives tend to put the time in come time to convention. In New York there will be less hard core, in Texas there will be more hard core conservatives. States have their own vibe, and you don't have to be rich or popular to go be part of process. My sons even come with me to some meetings.

That said, perhaps you meant GOPe, because locally I have not see what you suggest. But then again, I do live in the south.

59 posted on 04/16/2016 2:06:50 AM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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To: SubMareener

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60 posted on 04/16/2016 2:57:02 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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