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Manipulated Conservatives: Transgendered Bathrooms are Trivial
04.21.16 | chickensoup

Posted on 04/21/2016 7:26:11 AM PDT by Chickensoup

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To: Chickensoup

It isn’t trivial for those of us who have deal with it. The 2 trans at work were given keys to a single occupancy rest room but insist its gender discrimination if they can’t use the ladies room (they’re men) so they do.


41 posted on 04/21/2016 8:05:06 AM PDT by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Yes, those are important issues to be sure, but the erosion of our moral compass is important as well.

Do folks not believe in a sovereign God who inspired the framers to formulate the greatest form of government, the greatest nation the world has ever know. Do folks not fear God?

We are all flawed in a broken world, but to support policy that is blatantly against God's will only facilitates His hand of protection and provision away from us.

Ancient Israel is our sounding board. They rebelled against God, God pulled back his hand of protection and allowed their destruction.

42 posted on 04/21/2016 8:06:08 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Chickensoup

It isn’t just bathrooms. It is gym locker rooms and high school showers. I think it’s a big deal. The perverts continue to win and children are being taught perversion. I am not okay with that.


43 posted on 04/21/2016 8:12:29 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Does so

We don’t use them at the same time.


44 posted on 04/21/2016 8:17:46 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: heshtesh

Please stop with the facts.


45 posted on 04/21/2016 8:25:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: NEPA

It isn’t trivial for those of us who have deal with it. The 2 trans at work were given keys to a single occupancy rest room but insist its gender discrimination if they can’t use the ladies room (they’re men) so they do.
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It clearly is not trivial to those involved. It is truly trivial on a national scope AT THIS TIME.


46 posted on 04/21/2016 8:27:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It isn’t just bathrooms. It is gym locker rooms and high school showers. I think it’s a big deal. The perverts continue to win and children are being taught perversion. I am not okay with that.
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It is not the hill do die on at this time.

what the heck are kids doing in public schools to begin with? And that is a national scope question.


47 posted on 04/21/2016 8:29:04 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: servantboy777

Yes, those are important issues to be sure, but the erosion of our moral compass is important as well.
Do folks not believe in a sovereign God who inspired the framers to formulate the greatest form of government, the greatest nation the world has ever know. Do folks not fear God?

We are all flawed in a broken world, but to support policy that is blatantly against God’s will only facilitates His hand of protection and provision away from us.

Ancient Israel is our sounding board. They rebelled against God, God pulled back his hand of protection and allowed their destruction.

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The only way to preserve the moral compass is to address the issues of government intrusion and fight leftist totalitarianism.


48 posted on 04/21/2016 8:31:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

They are focusing on the trivial drama to avoid focusing on economic problems, Islamo-fascism, major immigration problems, liberal totalitarianism revealed in their presumption to police even your daily speech ...


49 posted on 04/21/2016 8:32:01 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: goldstategop

I say protect a woman’s privacy first and foremost.

To give by court order a transgender male permission to use a woman’s restroom and locker room is to deny a woman’s right to privacy.

- and that is not a trivial matter


50 posted on 04/21/2016 8:32:50 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Chickensoup

I disagree with the author: this transgender stuff is VERY important to the left. It is “merely” part of the larger offensive against Christian sexual mores and Christianity. It is one of the prongs of the leftist effort to marginalize and eventually criminalize Christian beliefs and practice.


51 posted on 04/21/2016 8:37:21 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: tbw2

They are focusing on the trivial drama to avoid focusing on economic problems, Islamo-fascism, major immigration problems, liberal totalitarianism revealed in their presumption to police even your daily speech ...

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and thoughts...and values...

Thus we need to fight the foundations and stop the drama.


52 posted on 04/21/2016 8:37:29 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s trivial unless you have a young daughter...


53 posted on 04/21/2016 8:37:53 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (I Samuel 8:19-20 The New Spirit of America?)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I disagree with the author: this transgender stuff is VERY important to the left. It is “merely” part of the larger offensive against Christian sexual mores and Christianity. It is one of the prongs of the leftist effort to marginalize and eventually criminalize Christian beliefs and practice.

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I am the author and I understand that this issue is one of a larger offensive. We need to address the leftists at the foundations, not the dramas. Not fall into YET ANOTHER ALINSKY TRAP!

Saul Alinsky describes 24 rules in Rules for Radicals. Of those 24 rules, 13 are rules of “power tactics”:

1. “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

2. “Never go outside the experience of your people.”

3. “Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy.”

4. “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.”

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

6. “A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.”

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.”

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

The remaining 11 rules Alinsky describes are concerned with “the ethics of means and ends”:

1. “One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue … Accompanying this rule is the parallel one that one’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s distance from the scene of conflict.”

2. “The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.”

3. “In war the end justifies almost any means.”

4. “Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.”

5. “Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.”

6. “The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.”

7. “Generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.”

8. “The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

9. “Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.”

10. “You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.”

11. “Goals must be phrased in general terms like ‘Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,’ ‘Of the Common Welfare,’ ‘Pursuit of Happiness,’ or ‘Bread and Peace.’”


54 posted on 04/21/2016 8:40:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

It’s trivial unless you have a young daughter...

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Three, I have three.

I get it, but this is not where you fight NOW. Read the whole thread. This is non-productive media manipulation at this time.


55 posted on 04/21/2016 8:42:05 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

When your ten year old daughter is raped by a man in the women’s restroom, will you stil think it is trivial?

This is not good.


56 posted on 04/21/2016 8:42:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Chickensoup
>>The only way to preserve the moral compass is to address the issues of government intrusion and fight leftist totalitarianism.<<

I respectfully disagree. We will not do this on our own. I hold a biblical world view.

2Chron.7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

57 posted on 04/21/2016 8:44:38 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Chickensoup

You see behind the curtain.

Lauer spent the whole interview trying to get Trump on these gotcha issues in order to keep Trump from talking about the economy, borders and security. And like lemmings, a bunch of people are falling for it.

However, Trump needs to get wise to this and have non-answer answers ready like the rest of the politicians. Part of the reason he falls for this is he’s not a politician. I like that he’s not a politician, but he needs to learn to handle the gotcha questions better, because his enemies are just waiting to jump on missteps.


58 posted on 04/21/2016 8:52:39 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: AppyPappy

What is a “girls” bathroom? How is that different from a “womens” bathroom?

Women’s bathrooms have stalls. Nobody sees anybody else’s genitalia. The hysteria is overblown.


59 posted on 04/21/2016 8:55:20 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: Salvation

When your ten year old daughter is raped by a man in the women’s restroom, will you stil think it is trivial?

This is not good.

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Of course it is not. But the real issue is the culture of leftism and our eroding rights which make even fighting it useless.


60 posted on 04/21/2016 8:59:31 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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