Posted on 04/22/2016 3:33:11 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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His history with the gay community is a long one. He donated to charities focused on the AIDS crisis in the late 1980s and early ’90s. In 2000, when he briefly considered running for president, he gave an interview to The Advocate, a gay magazine, in which he supported amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to “include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation.”
“It would be simple. It would be straightforward,” Mr. Trump said in the interview, adding, “It’s only fair.”
Sixteen years later, gay rights advocates are still trying to persuade Congress to pass a similar measure, but they have struggled to win support, especially from Republicans. The last Republican nominee, Mitt Romney, opposed similar legislation in 2012.
Mr. Trump declined to be interviewed for this article.
His ease with gay people does not seem to be the result of deep soul searching, but, rather, the product of the Manhattan social and political world he has inhabited the past five decades.
“I live in New York. I know many, many gay people. Tremendous people,” Mr. Trump said in an interview in 2011.
He has been playful at times, such as in 2000, when he and Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani appeared in a skit for a political roast, during which Mr. Trump nuzzled and caressed the mayor, who was dressed in drag.
Friends say he also views gay rights through the lens of a bottom line-minded businessman.
“His key concern is, Are you capable and able to do the job I hired you for? And if you are, very little else matters,” said Abe Wallach, an openly gay executive at the Trump Organization in the 1990s.
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Look. All these candidates have views on individual subjects with which we disagree. Unfortunately thereisn’t a factory some place where we can manufacture the perfect candidate, and if there was, it would probably have been moved to China. Trump is the most conservative electable candidate. Hopefully his views on this subject will have evolved.
It could very well be that he is pivoting on his rock-ribbed conservative values in order to make him acceptable in the general election.
After all, the country as a whole has pivoted left greatly. Anybody remember when Dick Cheney came out in favor of sodomite marriage?
Or it could have been that he pulled the wool over conservatives’ eyes during the primary season, particularly in the more conservative parts of the country.
Since he is an outsider and has no record of governance, we won’t be able to predict if he’ll govern as a conservative or a liberal when it comes to social issues. And we won’t know until after 1/20/17.
But, regardless, since he’s the presumptive nominee, we have a choice:
- Roll the dice with Trump not knowing 100% whether he is the NY Leftist Businessman, a former leftist who has come to a realization that conservatism is correct, or a full-blown libertine in favor of cheap illegal labor, government health care (to spin off the costs from business), abortion on demand (or as demanded...in order to get rid of undesirables), and sodomy in the streets.
- Go with a dyed-in-the-wool leftist like the Hildabeast, where we know what she’ll do and none of it will be good.
Even though I’m not a Trump supporter, I prefer to gamble with the former than accept the sure-loser with the latter.
Now it all makes sense. All the “Conservatives” for Liberal Donnie are closet cases.
Deja Vu, all over again.
I do give Trump credit though. He was spot on when he said that he could commit murder on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single vote.
There is nothing that he can do or say to cause his supporters to stop and actually think about who and what he is.
It’s not particularly surprising. Trump will manipulate some with his words into thinking he’s “conservative,” but he isn’t. He’s a left-of-center, NY Rockefeller type who will spout whatever bromides are necessary in an effort to get the deal he wants.
Sadly, the broader culture will not allow a 100% conservative (defense, small govt, social conservative) to win the Presidential election. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is what it is.
If we want to change the culture so that this won't be the case, we will need to overthrow the current education climate and take over the media so that people aren't propagandized. Neither are likely to happen anytime soon.
“Even though I’m not a Trump supporter, I prefer to gamble with the former than accept the sure-loser with the latter”
Ditto here. Detestable as Trump is, he’s most likely less abhorrent than that evil pantsuited hag. My vote will be against the worse of two evils, and the hag, by all indications, is the worse of the two.
But they'll allow a 100% liberal.
Lather, rinse, repeat = CW2 eventually.
STEAL BERNIE BRO VOTES.
It is impossible for any presidential candidate to be 100% pure on every issue for every conservative. For some, anything less than “All homosexuals are evil and should be lined up against a wall and shot” is soft on homosexuality. Of course taking that position will make that candidate unelectable outside of perhaps 1933 Germany or the modern day Muslim nations.
Now we are reduced to arguing about “grown men peeing next to little girls” which of course is an absurdity. I’ve lived in California, Boston and I now work in New York City. All liberal cesspools. But I’ve never seen or heard of any incidents. People go into public bathrooms, do their business and get out. All this hysteria is much ado about nothing. It’s like when helicopter parents keep their children sheltered and away from playgrounds because they are afraid some 57 year old pervert is sitting on a park bench with a sack of Tootsie rolls to lure them away, It’s all emotional hysteria.
I agree with Trump. It’s too much of a financial burden on businesses to construct a third bathroom for “in-between” people or however you want to define them. Leave it the way it is. Let people choose the bathroom they want to enter. If a crime occurs, enforce the laws already on the books. But building more bathrooms won’t prevent crime.
I’ve been using public bathrooms for years. Never had a problem ever. Other than they are often dirty or the toilet paper is out. I’ve accidentally gone into women’s room before. Not a big deal. No women screaming like you see in the movies. I’m the one that got embarrassed. As well, I’ve brought my own wife or girlfriend into the men’s room when the line for the women’s room is too long. When you have to go, you have to go.
“There is nothing that he can do or say to cause his supporters to stop and actually think about who and what he is.”
Amen to that. Like Obama’s adoring millions in 2008, they’re wayyy too emotionally invested to alter their stance now.
CW2 won't work (unless you mean "culture war" v2.0). We have to get in there and change the culture so that people once again become "circumcised in the heart" (cf Rom 2:29). Until that happens, the country will just continue left, regardless of what you or I want.
Don't believe me? Look at how many here on FR don't care and just want the border wall.
“...and in those days, it will be like days of Sodom,”
God placed before America a test. A test not unlike many written about in the Bible, before His judgement on the land was poured out for all to witness.
“...and many will be deceived,”
Yea, sounds a bit too preachy, even for many here on FR lately. But, I don’t think we have the ability to change things anymore and the choices of what once was a moral and righteous nation have since passed away. God is in charge of things and events, He always is. The nation is presented with choices that no longer, ‘fear the Lord.’
Unless our country falls on its knees in repentance and I simply don’t see that happening anytime soon, ... God will call His people to come out of her to not face His wrath and judgements.
I once read that God readily forgives the sinner, but for Nation’s He waits until their sins reach their full measure.
He is a transpublican. Which may be only slightly better than a dykeocrat.
“Don’t believe me? Look at how many here on FR don’t care and just want the border wall.”
Not to mention those who would accept an authoritarian dictatorship, so long as that dictatorship produces the border wall.
He lost my support with his stance on allowing men into women’s restrooms. I’m done with him.
I totally dislike homosexual behavior and don’t like to see it displayed. I also don’t like heterosexual behavior displayed either. I say, hate the sin, love the sinner.
If the law, as wrong as it is, says transgender people can use the toilet or urinal of their choice, we can argue all we want but we must follow the law. We dislike Obama because he only has DOJ go after lawbreakers that he approves of and ignores other laws.
I respect Trump for speaking his mind even though I disagree with his position on gays.....but like someone posted here, it is impossible to have a PERFECT candidate for anything.
It’s not the problem of “grown men peeing next to little girls”, it’s the problem of being FORCED to accept it, under penalty of prosecution. Decent people are fed up with being FORCED to accept the unacceptable.
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