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The Convention Could Very Well Prove to Be a RUN-OFF Election That Trump Could Very Well LOSE
self | 04/22/16 | the_doc

Posted on 04/22/2016 1:24:48 PM PDT by the_doc

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To: Jeff Head

I reluctantly agree.

I don’t trust Trump for a minute but if he gets that close and is inevitable ....

I trust Ted to do what is right for the country.

Not sure it is Trump but really sure it isn’t Hillary.


41 posted on 04/22/2016 2:10:12 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

I don’t think anyone said we are “OK” with the establishment...
it seems the establishment is trying to become friends with Trump...They see the writing on the wall...


42 posted on 04/22/2016 2:10:32 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: the_doc

I think if there were just one more “Could Very Well” in the title it would be more effective.


43 posted on 04/22/2016 2:10:39 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: altura

People paying attention Trump changed on two (2) issues both of which he announced when he did and why; Abortion and guns. One was the birth of his own, the other was Islam. Both are game changers. Other then that please post his changed positions that have not been in his position statements.

Now as to flip flopping. here is Cruz on Amnesty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuGzdyt0xOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI


44 posted on 04/22/2016 2:12:53 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I think there is a chance he gets to the convention with slightly less than 1237 bound delegates, but does sway enough of the unbound delegates to put him over the top on the first ballot. If he doesn’t get there on the first ballot, then it’ll be someone else.


45 posted on 04/22/2016 2:13:47 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: altura

It is a sure thing. it is sure Cruz will not win. Continuing this path will put Hillary in office if there is a contested convention. This is not a wild guess. Not a one of you believes Cruz has a path to winning the General. This is spite and self-destructive at that.


46 posted on 04/22/2016 2:15:33 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: neverbluffer

Something, fer sure.


47 posted on 04/22/2016 2:18:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: flintsilver7

What is going on is people are more concerned about America’s survival, jobs and national security then who pees in the bathroom. its called prioritizing. Smart people do this. They do not work hard to elect Hillary like the Cruz supporters are doing with their neverTrump agenda.

Nothing is more conservative then conserving America.


48 posted on 04/22/2016 2:20:06 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: altura

A bit more likely than Altura ever seeing reason, I suspect.


49 posted on 04/22/2016 2:23:00 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Mechanicos

The only thing that matters is this: who can keep the Clinton woman from destroying America?


50 posted on 04/22/2016 2:27:11 PM PDT by charleywhiskey
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To: Mechanicos

Totally disagree with that.

Really, Trump should drop out now. It is only vanity keeping him in the race. He doesn’t want to do president...he just wants to be president.

Ted Cruz has a much better chance of beating Hillary.

Not sure Trump has a chance even if Ted Cruz came on board.

Trump is (almost) universally despised.


51 posted on 04/22/2016 2:27:18 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: the_doc

Even if Trump goes into the convention with less than required to win the first ballot, there will still be no one with a better claim to having the support of the party’s voters.


52 posted on 04/22/2016 2:28:43 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: flintsilver7

You people annoy me. I have been casting my vote probably about the time you were born, and in my day, you did not vote at the age of 18. So don’t you tell me, I’m hypnotized. I have given a lot of thought to this presidential election as I always do, and I think that Donald Trump, the old guy, the successful guy outside the realm of politics, is about the best chance we have to turn things around, if they can be turned around.


53 posted on 04/22/2016 2:30:17 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: altura

Lets for argument sake say Trump is just under 1327 like you hope. And he knows this before the first vote. Do you think he cannot get enough of the unbound to help put him over on the first vote? Consider, he’s a billionaire with Manfort negotiating in his corner.

So a rational person would understand why if Trump is above 1100 going into the convention he wins with 100 percent probability. So once Trump gets around 250 more delegates hes it. No 2nd ballot. odds of him getting above 1100?

But the current behavior of Cruz and his supporters is fracturing the party helping Hillary. Its irrational behavior based on emotion not real world facts.


54 posted on 04/22/2016 2:30:19 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: the_doc

**Dear FReeper FRiends: The Convention balloting process will essentially amount to a completely necessary RUN-OFF election if Trump fails to achieve the magic number of 1237 votes on the first ballot.**

I doubt that there will be a second ballot or any kind of a run-off.


55 posted on 04/22/2016 2:33:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: altura

Give us your basis for how Cruz can beat Hillary with his horrible vote getting in the swing states and the fact hes got so much baggage the democrats can exploit with their billion dollar budget?

And please do not insult our intelligence with the BS polls.


56 posted on 04/22/2016 2:33:11 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: altura

We’ve already WON.


57 posted on 04/22/2016 2:33:25 PM PDT by faucetman (Iowa)
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To: faucetman

Who declared so????


58 posted on 04/22/2016 2:34:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: the_doc

“Seward had led Lincoln 173 1/2 to 102 on the first ballot—and he still lost the nomination to Lincoln as the best candidate in 1860 for POTUS.”

Just how did that work out? Real well didnt it? 5 years of killing and years and years of civil unrest. And Lincoln was not a popular president to boot. Matter of fact, if it were not for US Grant and his victorys, he might have lost re-election.
Lincoln only became popular after the defeat of the south.


59 posted on 04/22/2016 2:34:28 PM PDT by crz
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To: the_doc
he is not clearly a great candidate

However, he will clearly be the candidate who has garnered the most support from voters, correct?

Overriding the will of the voters with a different candidate being selected is going to help defeat Hillary exactly how?


60 posted on 04/22/2016 2:35:09 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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