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Did Trump Kill Reaganism?
American Conservative ^ | 04/28/16 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 04/28/2016 10:52:33 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Yes, says Bill Galston, contending that “Donald Trump is waging and winning the third major revolution in the Republican Party since World War II.” First there was Eisenhower reconciling the GOP with the New Deal. Then there was Reagan, who wrought a “remarkable fusion of supply-side economics, anti-Soviet internationalism and social conservatism.” And now? Excerpt:

Mr. Trump’s candidacy has showed that the cadre of genuine social conservatives is smaller than long assumed, that grass-roots Republican support for large military commitments in the Middle East has withered, and that the business community is politically homeless.

So it has come to this: A mercantilist isolationist is the odds-on favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination. Whether or not he goes on to win the general election, the Republican Party cannot return to what it once was. The Reagan era has ended, and what comes next is anyone’s guess.

Read the whole thing. Well, he’s right about that, but instead of giving Trump credit for killing Reaganism, I think we would do well to think about the extent to which Reaganism died a natural death from old age, and the extent to which its heirs killed it.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: reagan; reaganism; trump; trumpism
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To: amnestynone

And by God if Trump doesn’t work out, he will at least have broken up the logjam, the embargo on the political process imposed by the bipartisans and maybe we can get some other new blood in there.


61 posted on 04/28/2016 11:57:39 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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To: Snickering Hound

Once this idiot called a man who had developed property all over the world an “isolationist” he ended his credibility.


62 posted on 04/28/2016 11:57:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well if he were here today he would be coarsened like the rest of us.


63 posted on 04/28/2016 11:58:41 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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To: Jim Robinson
You are absolutely right! It was the "politically correct" mindset that began to dismantle what Reagan achieved in the early 1990s. In breaking the hold of that mindset, Donald Trump has freed us to restore the Reagan achievements and build on top of them.
64 posted on 04/28/2016 11:58:55 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: PAR35
The establishment that runs both parties has long hated Reagan. They have only held the legacy of Reagan high to fool the Republican base into believing establishment Republican leadership was working on behalf of the middle class and the working poor. The Republican leadership betrayed the legacy of Reagan and it is rich that they are still trying to use Reaganism as a club to hit voters with because they are tired of getting lied to and ripped off.
65 posted on 04/28/2016 12:05:09 PM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: ichabod1
There is no fiscal conservatism apart from social conservatism because the social liberal mantra is take from one and give to another.

This is the sort of obvious thing that you would think "Fiscal" Conservatives would figure out.

The concept of private property and *your* money stems from Judeo-Christian morality. It is not surprising that with the decline of Christianity we see a rise in socialism, which is pretty much a form of collectivism, and which will devolve into full blown communism if allowed to continue.

66 posted on 04/28/2016 12:10:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: winoneforthegipper

Trump is killing Bush-ism.


67 posted on 04/28/2016 12:16:30 PM PDT by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
In all of human history, there has never been an occasion when moral views were not legislated. There is no choice about them being legislated. (forced by law) The only choice is about which set of morals is going to *GET* enforced by law.

That's a good point that I should have made clear. My point was that the left has been effective in changing our culture and society enough to the extent that any FEDERAL legislation of traditional Judeo/Christian values is met with hostility and demonization. The left has removed God from our society and convinced the people that having a secular king (government) is in their best interests.

For the most point Trump seems to advocate that it's the states obligation to legislate things that touch upon morality. But wow it seems like the feds have even removed the states from doing that.

68 posted on 04/28/2016 12:33:42 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: winoneforthegipper

30 years of Bush family Progressive Liberalism and Internationalism killed Reaganism. Trump is actually a turn back to the America First Nationalism of the Reagan years.


69 posted on 04/28/2016 12:37:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: HamiltonJay

Kinda right -
A more accurate statement would be: the GOP permitted Ronald Reagan to run for president, as long as he had George Bush running as VP.

Our Idiocracy is so adle brained, eff’ed up and in a dire state of disfunction to even consider comparison of Ronald Reagan to the likes of Donald Trump.
Other than ego and fortune, Trump is cannot hold a candle to Ronald Reagan’s virtues, honesty, intellect, comminication and moral conviction.
Period.

Trump is our current least worst choice.

RE: “Reagan killed Reaganism when he picked Bush I as his VP... hate to break that to everyone, but Reagan himself ensured his revolution would be blunted the second he was out of office with that move.”


70 posted on 04/28/2016 12:41:10 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: winoneforthegipper

George Herbert Walker Bush killed Reaganism. The greasy, toxic, globalist ‘neocon’ putsch did away with the Reagan Revolution.


71 posted on 04/28/2016 12:54:38 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (This year we break the Uniparty or it breaks us.)
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To: Snowybear

“You beat me to it. One man and one man alone killed Reaganism. His name is George H.W. Bush. I will dance and drink beer the day he releases his mortal coil.”

You will NOT be alone! I’m glad that he has lived long enough to see his “new world order” fall apart.


72 posted on 04/28/2016 12:55:43 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (This year we break the Uniparty or it breaks us.)
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To: ichabod1

“I hadn’t really thought about this but, if Reagan were here today, who would he endorse? Who would the eternal optimist endorse? Reagan would be a Trumpkin all the way!”

Right.

And I remember seeing “Let’s make America Great Again” Reagan ads back in the day.

The similarities outweigh the differences.


73 posted on 04/28/2016 1:19:28 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

If Trump and America can pull this off, we will out-Reagan Reaganism. Reagan was a great president for his time. These times are different and call for far more drastic measures.


74 posted on 04/28/2016 1:25:50 PM PDT by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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To: AndyJackson
And I fail to see how someone who is asking our allies to bear their fair burden is an "isolationist."

Totally agree. Trump's foreign policy is basically, "what's in it for us?" He said we play to win, not to be used like what has been happening. There is nothing "isolationist" about looking out for America's self interests.

75 posted on 04/28/2016 1:31:01 PM PDT by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Bill Galston was a Bill Clinton appointee and an arrogant SOB (personal experience).


76 posted on 04/28/2016 1:45:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: upsdriver

I agree. Trump is pragmatic, not isolationist. He talks with working with leaders of other countries. Didn’t Fiorina say she wouldn’t talk to Putin?


77 posted on 04/28/2016 1:50:11 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: HamiltonJay
Reagan killed Reaganism when he picked Bush I as his VP...

And there are still freepers on this board thinking that Trump should appoint Cruz, and that will solve the problem... Lordy. If he did that, he'd need the SS to hire a taster.

78 posted on 04/28/2016 2:56:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: winoneforthegipper

the comments are excellent!


79 posted on 04/28/2016 3:46:07 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Solson

Very astute.


80 posted on 04/28/2016 6:29:16 PM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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