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Sorry, We Don’t Take Obamacare
New York Times ^ | May 14, 2016 | ELISABETH ROSENTHAL

Posted on 05/15/2016 5:31:53 AM PDT by reaganaut1

AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

“Anytime one of us needs a doctor,” she continued, “we send out an alert: ‘Does anyone have anyone on an exchange plan that does mammography or colonoscopy? Who takes our insurance?’ It’s really a problem.”

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies. By many measures, the law has been a success: The number of uninsured Americans has dropped by about half, with 20 million more people gaining coverage. It has also created a host of new policies for self-employed people like Ms. Moses, who previously had insurance but whose old plans were no longer offered.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.

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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; aca; doctorshortage; obamacare; obamacaredoctors
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To: reaganaut1
By many measures, the law has been a success: The number of uninsured Americans has dropped by about half, with 20 million more people gaining coverage.

Almost all these people are additions to the Medicaid rolls or heavily subsidized. Republicans had a plan which would have covered these people without taking over the entire health care system.

21 posted on 05/15/2016 6:07:00 AM PDT by randita
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To: reaganaut1

Told those Obama supporters again and again till you’re blue in the face to no avail -

Obamacare does not equal to providing health care.

This is a sad “I told you so” but definitely no gloating here.


22 posted on 05/15/2016 6:10:09 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: reaganaut1

You can buy real insurance anytime you want.


23 posted on 05/15/2016 6:10:13 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: reaganaut1

I can say the same about Obamacare policies sold in Texas. My friend has an individual insurance plan she purchased, not Obamacare. She called her husband’s doctor to schedule an appointment. The office staff told her bluntly at the outset of the call they did not accept Obamacare plans. When she told them it was an individual plan and not Obamacare, they perked up, said OK, and asked what day/time was good for them.


24 posted on 05/15/2016 6:14:30 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Maybe only people who have obamacare should be taken seriously as writers about obamacare


25 posted on 05/15/2016 6:14:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: grania
Two new conditions that have been invented for them....pre-diabetes and early stage symptoms of possible Alzeimers or dementia. Why THE HECK would anyone allow those diagnoses to appear on their medical records?

Is there a way to disallow a diagnosis on one's medical records?

26 posted on 05/15/2016 6:15:37 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: johniegrad
“Something like that but just short of it. They will attempt to make Obamacare acceptance a requirement for issuing licenses. Massachusettes did this in the past to attempt to make assignment to Medicaid mandatory.”

This gets down to the basic mindset (whether they realize it or not) of socialists/communists: ‘If only everyone would work hard and let us take what we need from them to run our programs and redistribute, everyone’s life would be better’. In other words, they advocate slavery. They're just too blinded by ideology (and the idea of being really important leaders and saving ‘the people’) that they can't even see this reality. Even if they did, their delusional grandiosity would allow them to rationalize that it was all OK, because they would be fair and good slave masters.

There is no social justice or any other idealistic wonder in socialism / communism. None. Charity is virtuous and humane, and we should all be charitable human beings. Involuntary confiscation for politically motivated redistribution is not charity - even though some in government would like to rationalize it this way.

27 posted on 05/15/2016 6:16:42 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Donglalinger

Yes, and at comparable or lower premium costs.


28 posted on 05/15/2016 6:18:31 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Vigilanteman

“...people like Ms. Moses, who previously had insurance but whose old plans were no longer offered.”

Obviously, she didn’t like her old plan. If she had liked it, she could’ve kept it. Obama said so...


29 posted on 05/15/2016 6:18:49 AM PDT by moovova
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To: grania

The concept of prediabetes is an indication of more or less permanent high blood sugar as indicated by an elevated A1c over a period of time.

Once the A1c level passes a point the condition is diagnosed as diabetes mellitus. The condition is real even though the induction is purely numbers derived.

Some doctors choose to not use the term prediabetes and go for the diagnosis as Type II at a lower A1c threshold. The difference is totally semantic since the remedy is the same.

For the patient, either diagnosis is a warning shot across the bow. To prevent what can be very bad conditions, a few changes are necessary to reduce the probability.

Your post is quite foolish and indicates general ignorance and bias.


30 posted on 05/15/2016 6:19:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: randita

In Washington state the numbers were, 1/3 into expanded Medicaid, 1/3 eligible for traditional Medicaid (but were too dumb to apply), 1/3 bought a policy through the exchange. The number of people actually buying insurance that had lost their old policies was never released.


31 posted on 05/15/2016 6:24:29 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Involuntary confiscation for politically motivated redistribution is not charity - even though some in government would like to rationalize it this way.

I'll take it a step further.

Excessive confiscatory taxes are a sin against charity because they remove the voluntary link in giving that makes the giving a free will act.

Furthermore, it removes the opportunity for the recipient to be thankful and express gratitude by destroying the relationship between giver and receiver.

True charitable giving glorifies God for both giver and receiver. Government redistribution does not.

32 posted on 05/15/2016 6:26:36 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: reaganaut1

I’m a physician and sat in many meetings and told company execs, community leaders and hospital admin it was all a scam. It essentially gave free healthcare to the poor, the majority of which are just freeloaders or drug addicts, and pushed workers into high deductible plans that aren’t much more than catastrophic healthcare plans. No one minds taking care of the truly poor. That wasn’t what this did though.
Now the healthcare corporations and insurance companies are getting killed. Don’t feel sorry for them though. They wouldn’t listen. Crony capitalism at it’s worst.


33 posted on 05/15/2016 6:28:01 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: grania
early stage symptoms of possible Alzeimers or dementia.

Vague enough to be assigned to patients who resist the medications and treatments shoved on them because they're billable by the doctors.

34 posted on 05/15/2016 6:28:04 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Vigilanteman
I wonder if the author realizes how appallingly stupid this sounds.

Probably not. Leftists never realize how stupid they sound. Consider this, from "our" Attorney General:

“There is no room in our schools for discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against transgender students on the basis of their sex,” claims Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

35 posted on 05/15/2016 6:29:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: reaganaut1
“I’m putting my energy into improving transparency and information,” Dr. Polsky said. “Otherwise, we’re headed to a poorly implemented strategy that just ticks people off.”

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Too late, doc .... you're already there.

36 posted on 05/15/2016 6:31:16 AM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: reaganaut1

Almost everyone seems to have forgotten that the democrats originally promised that their health care plan would give all Americans the same health plan as members of congress and the senate have.


37 posted on 05/15/2016 6:32:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Islam is Islam. Democracy is the train we ride to our ultimate victory. (Recep Erdogan))
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To: bigredkitty1
The weird thing is Obamacare policies aren't cheap.

obamacare victims are paying a bunch of money for a useless product. Somebody will eventually file a class action suit on this only to be told they have no standing to file.

38 posted on 05/15/2016 6:32:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Gay State Conservative
-- Why would the NY Slimes,of all papers,run a story like this? --

Aiming for single payer, one give is this line in the article ...

Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.

39 posted on 05/15/2016 6:32:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: reaganaut1
It has also created a host of new policies for self-employed people like Ms. Moses, who previously had insurance but whose old plans were no longer offered.

That's one way to say it... Another would be to say that the ACA took insurance from a hundred million people who were happy with their insurance, and replaced it with something that they did not like, had to pay much more for, and is much more troublesome to deal with.

40 posted on 05/15/2016 6:37:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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