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Gov. Fallin vetoes bill that would make performing an abortion a felony
kfor.com ^ | 5/20/16

Posted on 05/20/2016 4:37:09 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

One day after lawmakers passed a bill that would make performing an abortion a felony, Gov. Mary Fallin decided to veto the measure....

On Friday, Gov. Mary Fallin vetoed the measure, saying the bill was “vague” and “would not withstand a criminal constitutional legal challenge.”

“The bill is so ambiguous and so vague that doctors cannot be certain what medical circumstances would be considered ‘necessary to preserve the life of the mother,” Fallin said. “The absence of any definition, analysis or medical standard renders this exception vague, indefinite and vulnerable to subjective interpretation and application.”

“While I consistently have and continue to support a re-examination of the United States Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade, this legislation cannot accomplish that re-examination,” Fallin wrote. “In fact, the most direct path to a re-examination of the United States Supreme Court’s ruling in Roe v. Wade is the appointment of a conservative, pro-life justice to the United States Supreme Court.”

Pro-choice groups have said the bill is unconstitutional, but the author of the bill, Sen. Nathan Dahm, said he hoped it would challenge Roe v. Wade.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: fallin; infanticide; murder
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I guess I understand her point. But the battle has to be fought. I wish she would take some leadership on this point.
1 posted on 05/20/2016 4:37:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Someone wants to be VP, and will do anything to get it.
She got her orders, now we’ll see if she gets anything for it.


2 posted on 05/20/2016 4:39:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SoFloFreeper

The lefty way is to probe, probe, probe... this could be a valuable page to take out of their book.

She might just not want to fight all the lefty opprobrium at this point.

GENERALLY, pro-life has wanted to be easy on the mothers as was historically the case before Roe v. Wade. However this is about the docs, so that worry isn’t even germane here.


3 posted on 05/20/2016 4:43:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gov. Fallin joins the morally depraved side of other genocidal murderers committing crimes against humanity and giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


4 posted on 05/20/2016 4:45:04 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: HiTech RedNeck

she already vetoed it


5 posted on 05/20/2016 4:45:27 PM PDT by wwcj
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To: wwcj

she already vetoed it? that was fast


6 posted on 05/20/2016 4:46:40 PM PDT by wwcj
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To: wwcj

Talking about next time


7 posted on 05/20/2016 4:46:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Carl Vehse

I’m glad you had the time to analyze the whole thing.


8 posted on 05/20/2016 4:48:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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next time?

next time they present another bill?


9 posted on 05/20/2016 4:50:05 PM PDT by wwcj
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Any analogous case


10 posted on 05/20/2016 4:50:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Abortions are not “performed,” they are “committed.”


11 posted on 05/20/2016 4:53:11 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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"I’m glad you had the time to analyze the whole thing."

You're welcome.

12 posted on 05/20/2016 4:54:36 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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"In fact, the most direct path to a re-examination of the United States Supreme Court’s ruling in Roe v. Wade is the appointment of a conservative, pro-life justice to the United States Supreme Court."

Is that really 'the most direct path'? The SCOTUS doesn't just revisit on its own volition precedents like Roe. There has to be a case in controversy that directly challenges Roe. And laying the groundwork for such a case is the responsibility of folks like Gov. Fallin.

I get the argument that a 5-3 majority of the current Court is going to be unfavorably disposed toward a full-on attack on Roe. And, yet, SCOTUS appointments aren't something that Gov. Fallin can directly affect. She ain't running for President. She ain't on the Senate Judiciary Committee. On the other hand, this law restricting abortion in Oklahoma is something that she can directly affect and something that could be the basis for a Roe challenge down the line. You've got to start somewhere. It seems to me that she dropped the ball here.
13 posted on 05/20/2016 4:55:21 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: SoFloFreeper

From what state is Gov. Fallin?


14 posted on 05/20/2016 4:56:16 PM PDT by murron
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To: SoFloFreeper

From what state is Gov. Fallin?


15 posted on 05/20/2016 4:56:52 PM PDT by murron
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...I guess I understand her point...

A Bill like this has to have specific definitions and very specific criteria for enforcement. If it leaves alot to interpretation, it can be easily shot down on appeal as void for vagueness.
The OK legislature apparently wasn’t specific enough in its language. If they really want the law, they should try again. I think, he Governor would sign it if it were specific enough with its language.


16 posted on 05/20/2016 5:11:06 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, rewrite the bill and pass it again.


17 posted on 05/20/2016 5:11:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I opposed the bill, but not for the same reasons as the governor.

It contained exceptions you could drive abortion on demand through.

Not just life of the mother, but the “mental health” of the mother. In other words, all the hit man would have to do is have the murderous mother sign a form that says that she might do herself harm, maybe, if she wasn’t allowed to have her precious child exterminated.

Fallin’s judicial supremacist views are fatal to any sort of attempt to stop abortion anyhow, by the way. They are a coup d’etat against republican constitutional self-government.


18 posted on 05/20/2016 5:16:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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So, rewrite the bill and pass it again.

Great idea. And this time make sure it meets the Constitution's explicit equal protection requirements.

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

19 posted on 05/20/2016 5:17:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SoFloFreeper

Another GOP FAILURE... Flush them All, They Stand for Nothing!

The Enemy is within and until we deal with that Enemy we will Never be able to Deal with the Enemy’s outside the Nation.


20 posted on 05/20/2016 5:30:40 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution, A Moral People, and Return to On Nation UNDER God!)
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