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Beck Shreds Rubio Over Trump Support: ‘You Have No Credibility With Me Any More’
Mediaite ^ | May 30, 2016 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 05/30/2016 11:20:46 PM PDT by Trump20162020

Glenn Beck used to talk about harboring respect for Marco Rubio, but now that Rubio has basically thrown in with Donald Trump, Beck tore into Rubio yesterday over what he deemed as a betrayal.

Rubio has indicated in various Twitter spats over the past week that he’s behind Trump by default because there are no other good options to take down Hillary Clinton. But that’s not good enough for Beck.

He wrote, “Can you have any credibility when you said one thing on the campaign trail and then the opposite after. Were you lying to us then or now Marco?”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016endorsements; beck; blaze; cheetos; donaldtrump; election2016; florida; glennbeck; marcorubio; newyork; rubio; rubio2016; sharkjumper; talkradio; theblaze; trump; unity
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To: Trump20162020

Poor poor Beck.

Everyone did not bow to him and his Bishop Romney
and allow more destruction of America by them.


41 posted on 05/31/2016 3:45:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Trump20162020
Cruz is out, Petersen is out... who's Beck supporting now?

Hillary - it's what the "Cruz-or-Lose" holdouts do...

42 posted on 05/31/2016 3:45:27 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Trump20162020

Another pundit who severely over estimates their own self importance. Just like Levin, they couldn’t sway the primary to their candidate. So, now they act like petulant children who didn’t get their way.


43 posted on 05/31/2016 3:54:23 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: Trump20162020

Oh noze
Marco lost his credibility with the eminently credible Glenn beck ?
Run away marco
Run away quickly


44 posted on 05/31/2016 3:55:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Glenn Beck saying someone is not credible? LOL

45 posted on 05/31/2016 3:59:41 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No he is not.
He was born in Canada to a Canadian citizen and a Cuban citizen.


46 posted on 05/31/2016 4:09:03 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Trump20162020

Elmer Gantry spewing his BS again? He’s a lunatic!


47 posted on 05/31/2016 4:13:08 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Trump20162020

“Beck Shreds Rubio Over Trump Support: ‘You Have No Credibility With Me Any More’”

Funny, I thought the same thing about Beck over the last two months or so.


48 posted on 05/31/2016 4:16:09 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Trump20162020
Who is Glenn Beck?

Why should I care?

Just asking.

49 posted on 05/31/2016 4:20:14 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: Trump20162020

These guys want Trump to lose so they can say I told you so and then they can seem so smart next election when they tell everyone who the only person who can win is. Anyone they choose in the future will be someone would never support. I’m fairly confident of that


50 posted on 05/31/2016 4:22:06 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Utmost Certainty
Lol. You worded that pretty funny.

He doesn't see how he behaves. For instance, His little charade with Zuck is one of many incidents to make us to shake our heads at him. He really needs a reality check.

51 posted on 05/31/2016 4:41:22 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

If there is extensive law written that covers election fraud, but it is impossible to enforce, or if a sufficient number of people agree that So-and-So is the President or Pope despite the law, how does that not utterly, completely destroy the entire notion of the Rule of Law itself? As I have said for years with regards to Obama, if you can’t enforce Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the Constitution, what can you enforce? Can you enforce the border? Can you enforce citizenship? Equal protection? Search and seizure? Right to bear arms? Can you enforce the law against treason? Theft? Murder? Trafficking in body parts? Religious persecution?

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

Not much information exists on why the Third Congress (under the lead of James Madison and the approval of George Washington) deleted "natural born" from the Naturalization Act of 1790 when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1795. There is virtually no information on the subject because they probably realized that the First Congress committed errors when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 and did not want to create a record of the errors.

It can be reasonably argued that Congress realized that under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress is given the power to make uniform laws on naturalization and that this power did not include the power to decide who is included or excluded from being a presidential Article II "natural born Citizen." While Congress has passed throughout United States history many statutes declaring who shall be considered nationals and citizens of the United States at birth and thereby exempting such persons from having to be naturalized under naturalization laws, at no time except by way of the short-lived "natural born" phrase in Naturalization Act of 1790 did it ever declare these persons to be "natural born Citizens."

The uniform definition of "natural born Citizen" was already provided by the law of nations and was already settled. The Framers therefore saw no need nor did they give Congress the power to tinker with that definition. Believing that Congress was highly vulnerable to foreign influence and intrigue, the Framers, who wanted to keep such influence out of the presidency, did not trust Congress when it came to who would be President, and would not have given Congress the power to decide who shall be President by allowing it to define what an Article II "natural born Citizen " is.

Additionally, the 1790 act was a naturalization act. How could a naturalization act make anyone an Article II "natural born Citizen?" After all, a "natural born Citizen" was made by nature at the time of birth and could not be so made by any law of man.

Natural Born Citizen Through the Eyes of Early Congresses

Harvard Law Review Article FAILS to Establish Ted Cruz as Natural Born Citizen

Watch: Mark Levin declares Ted Cruz a "Naturalized Citizen"

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

The settled law of the land is that the US President must be a natural born citizen, and that to be a natural born citizen, you must have been born in the United States to parents both of whom were US citizens when you were born.

You may disagree with the goal of the Constitutional Convention, and/or with the means they chose to achieve it. But it's not a technicality, not an anachronism no longer relevant in modern times, nor is it racist. Especially in modern times, it enables persons of any race or ethnic heritage to become President. And it's what the Constitution requires.

You may also disagree with binding precedent regarding the meaning of "natural born citizen" as established in Minor. But in our system, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court's interpretation of it, are the "supreme law of the land." And if one faction gets to disregard the Constitution and/or the Supreme Court because they disagree, then that sets a precedent where all other factions can do the same.

Any Argument Against the Natural Law Definition of "Natural Born Citizen" Can easily be Defeated Here

52 posted on 05/31/2016 4:48:26 AM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Trump20162020

Beck is acting like a raging alcoholic.

Is he back on the sauce again?


53 posted on 05/31/2016 4:50:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: spetznaz

“He probably thinks he can pull a Reagan, with a Hillary president being a Carter. “

I really thought Obama’s first term would be “a Carter”...but then Zero was re-elected and my theory went right out the window. I realized the USA was well on its way to being destroyed. If Hillary becomes president, it won’t be “a Carter” we’ll be able to come back from. It would simply be the final nail in the coffin.


54 posted on 05/31/2016 4:53:37 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Trump20162020

Guess the vote of the people has no validity to strong constitutionalists.

Pray America wakes


55 posted on 05/31/2016 4:58:10 AM PDT by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: moovova
I really thought Obama’s first term would be “a Carter”...but then Zero was re-elected and my theory went right out the window. I realized the USA was well on its way to being destroyed. If Hillary becomes president, it won’t be “a Carter” we’ll be able to come back from. It would simply be the final nail in the coffin.

100% correct! That is the point that the sad folk at Red State do not understand. That if Hillary wins, there will not be a Plan B 4 years later in 2020. Already the Democrats hold a (growing) demographic advantage, and in terms of culture the pendulum has really moved to their side of things (there are things being shown in cartoons and teen TV today that would not have been found in R-rated movies 2 decades ago). Not to mention the impact on the SCOTUS once Hillary nominates (up to) 3 new Supreme Court Justices. That can have a real impact on things, and seeing how places like San Francisco are working on banning hollow points should provide an indication of the path ahead.

The Democrats play a long game, they have been winning (yes, we do win some battles, but they have been winning the war - think of it this way, JFK was more conservative than the last 4 Republican candidates), and a Hillary presidency will be major!

Cruz probably believes that 2016 is a repeat of 1976, and 2020 will be a repeat of 1980. The truth is that if Hillary wins 2016 then she will win 2020, and in 2024 another Democrat will also probably win it.

But hey - it seems there are many people on our side that prefer to spend time wishing and day-dreaming about delegate switching and the like.

56 posted on 05/31/2016 5:31:30 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Trump20162020
Beck?

I used to think Mitt Romney was a descent person too.

57 posted on 05/31/2016 5:32:08 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: nikos1121

I feel you. Thing is, as bad as Obama was wait and see what Hillary will do. Especially if she wins and gets to choose up to 3 new SCOTUS replacements. This is the coup de grace the Democrats have been waiting for. After 3 decades of whipping our collective behinds, they are now positioned to deliver the final blow.


58 posted on 05/31/2016 5:33:52 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Pinkbell

Ah, thank you. More mirth tonight. Thanks.


59 posted on 05/31/2016 5:34:22 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Trump20162020

Meanwhile, Beck considers George Will to be a solid conservative.


60 posted on 05/31/2016 5:36:13 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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