The Politics of the Gorilla Story

RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 5-31-2016 | Rush Limbaugh

[sparklite2]

Rush,

Dolphins and porpoises aren’t fish. They’re mammals.

[mrmeyer]

I don't humanize animals. Um, but you know what? Someone's gotta stick up for them, and someone does have to give them rights.

No.

[econjack]

What I want more information on is where the hell were the parents when the kid fell into the pen. This is not some short scramble over a fence. To me, the parents are responsible for this act and should bear the full consequences of it, including restitution for the animal.

[imardmd1]

Gorilla Lies Matter. /s

[TigerClaws]

Story out in Daily Mail (you have to go to England to find out the news about the U.S.) said the dad was a big thug with a bunch of charges on his rap sheet.

They’ll probably sue the zoo over their own stupidity.

[BenLurkin]

Sure would like to see a link the Black Lives Matter where the organization weighed in on the dead gorilla.

[mjp]

Someone's gotta stick up for them, and someone does have to give them rights.

animal rights are false rights just like economic rights and rights of groups are

[Mike Darancette]

#GorillaLivesMatter

[Behind the Blue Wall]

You can be an animal lover and still recognize that if the choice is between an animal and a human, no matter the circumstances that led up to it, the animal has to go.

[Maudeen]

Where’s this crowd while little babies are being torn from their mothers’ wombs?

[Uversabound]

parents are responsible

Werid. i am not sure how old that kid is but he looks to be maybe 2? 3?

Should be attached to the hip outside of the home I am sure most mothers would agree.

Honestly what has happened to parenting?

Gone to Pot????

[Boomer]

I’ve got mixed feelings on this one. The zoo should definitely have an enclosure that prevents an errant child from getting in so easily. I know it would practically be impossible to make it adult proof. The parents are to blame as well. If they can’t maintain their kids on an outing then maybe they shouldn’t go or at least put them on some kind of leash and harness just like we do with dogs.

Being a dog/animal lover myself; I do think animals should have some basic rights. Obviously all zoo animals and all pets; even runaway pets. Human life must come first. That’s just the way it is but when I hear some cowboy say they will shoot any dog they see roaming around on their property; I think to myself - just try that with one of mine. There would be two bodies being buried that day. If I’m out walking and letting my dogs get some exercise out it the country and some inbred shoots one of them; I’m being attacked and have every right to defend myself to the point of killing the shooter which I would most definitely do my best to do.

[Elsie]

Should the gorilla's life take primacy? It was the gorilla's home.

Since everything is politicized anyway; this is a perfect example of an undocumented alien.

Crossing the border {moat} illegally, coming to Harambe's attention, and those in power imagining that the gorilla citizen is NOT going to be kind to the visitor; kills him.

Right there; folks; is what's going to be happening down Mexico way.

Heck; it even happens in Oregon; but since no one was threatened; the powers-that-be just HAD to kill SOMEBODY!!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/15/oregon-standoff-update-fbi-caught-posing-as-militia-trying-to-scare-county-residents/

[Elsie]

Where’s this crowd while little babies are being torn from their mothers’ wombs?

Over at the Raptor cages...

 

I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 

 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)

 

 

But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,

and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing

of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.

Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.

 

 

I hear that by now, somewhere around 58 MILLION of them have perished.

Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and

retirement?

 

 

 

 

 

Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses

before they are ALL dead!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 

 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)

 

 

But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,

and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing

of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.

Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.

 

 

I hear that by now, somewhere around 58 MILLION of them have perished.

Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and

retirement?

 

 

 

 

 

Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses

before they are ALL dead!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Polyxene]

BLM vs. PETA = Liberal Dilemma

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't be sad, Funny Man..  Evr thang will be all right...

[lacrew]

I suspect the reverse will happen, and the zoo will get sued, right or wrong.

In all of the reporting on this, I have not been able to find what, to me at least, seems like an obviously important part of the story - photos of the fence. Some reports say the kid went over it, while others say he went through it. But I’d love to just see a picture of it, to see how easy/hard it looks to get past it.

Frankly, I’m surprised he survived the 15 ft fall into the moat, to begin with.

[Maudeen]

Pictures are more than a thousand words.

[Yaelle]

According to the Bible, animals do have rights. They have the right to be treated well by us, even if we plan to eat them. We are not to be cruel to animals. Even emotionally cruel. That is part of the kashrut law.*

Now, we are free to rid our homes of pests and and we are free to eat animals and use them for work or companionship. We are free to kill an animal who means us harm. But other than such a circumstance, we are trusted by Gd to be decent to animals. Context matters. There is no need to kill ants in an anthill out in the woods, but if they invade our homes, it’s fair to kill them.

I see this situation as something that is sad but happened. I’m sorry that animal had to die but humans before animals, and this was a situation where this had to happen. If the person was a neurotypical adult, I would have preferred they use a tranquilizer, but since it was a helpless child (or if it had been a disabled adult), this had to happen. I am not that interested in this story because it was a freak thing and I don’t think it will keep happening. I assume they will make the enclosure safer for kids.

*in the Torah we are not to seethe a kid in its mother’s milk. This is the reason we don’t eat meat and dairy together. You have killed a lamb, or a calf, and you are going to eat it. The mother cow or sheep is desolate, longing for her baby. Her udders are overflowing with milk for her baby. It would be cruel to use her milk to cook the baby in. This is obviously focusing on EMOTIONAL cruelty for animals, so the Bible definitely feels animals have rights.