Posted on 06/16/2016 10:03:29 AM PDT by Red Steel
Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) had been quietly engaged in talks with a prominent pro-gun control group to craft a compromise that would bar suspected terrorists from being able to purchase firearms — but those discussions have collapsed, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.
The deal-breaker in the talks between Toomey and the group led by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Everytown for Gun Safety, appears to be a new provision from Toomey that would require the Justice Department to create a new federal list of people who should be barred from purchasing firearms because of suspected terror activities, according to the source.
After that, the FISA courts would have to sign off on each individual getting on the list — a process that was problematic for gun-control advocates because it would create a significant backlog in the system.
A Toomey spokeswoman, confirming the talks with Bloomberg's group, said Everytown officials had told the senator they would support his proposal if he secured bipartisan backing.
"Sen. Toomey has been working with Everytown, and really appreciates their efforts. In fact this afternoon we had agreed upon language," spokeswoman E.R. Anderson said. "Everytown told us that they would publicly back [his plan] so as long as we found bipartisan support. That's why Sen. Toomey took to the floor this afternoon and why he is talking to his colleagues on both sides of the aisle in the hopes they will join him in this middle ground."
Toomey added in a brief interview: "I don't think you can assume all Democrats have" rejected the proposal.
Still, Democrats signaled that Toomey's proposal was a non-starter, meaning that the gun control group would likely not sign on, either.
Everytown spokeswoman Erika Soto Lamb said the group's support always depended on backing from key Democrats including Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California and members of leadership.
"While we are encouraged that there have been some discussions, we are not there yet, and our support for any compromise legislation is contingent on support from both Republicans and Democrats," Soto Lamb said. "Senators from both parties have an obligation to the American people to keep working until they get this right."
Toomey will formally roll out his new proposal on Thursday.
“We must do everything we can to stop terrorists from obtaining guns," Toomey said in a statement. "At the same time, we must not infringe on the rights of law-abiding Americans. In my view, neither of the proposals the Senate considered last year got that balance quite right.
As she headed to a classified briefing Wednesday afternoon, Feinstein, who has taken the lead on the Senate Democratic gun proposal, alluded to potential problems with Toomey’s plan.
“Toomey is a six-month process,” Feinstein said. “We’re looking for something that can be quick and effective and if somebody is adjudged to be a danger, that they can be denied” from purchasing a weapon.
Toomey disagreed with Feinstein’s assertion that his proposal would take six months, but declined to elaborate on his legislation.
Toomey’s proposal would also require federal officials to show probable cause that the person attempting to purchase a firearm would engage in terrorism, according to the source. That’s too high of a standard, Democrats and gun-control advocates say, because if they met that standard, the person would likely be arrested anyway.
Yes. I consider it treason. They need to repeal a whole bunch of laws.
What ... slithering across our border? The rat-bastard is currently a senaturd from PA.
So this is the trench behind the one with the sign that reads:
WE MUST STOP TERRORISTS FROM ENTERING THE UNITED STATES
Toomey’s trench is
NOW THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE WITH TERRORISTS, WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THEY DON’T GET GUNS, EVEN IF IT MEANS TAKING YOURS AWAY.
Do you all remember how glad we all were when this guy got elected in PA?
Oh ... The execrable Joe Manchin is up for re-election in 2018. I have realistic hope that we can remove him from the Senate then.
Democrats can craft an argument that an attack by a homophobic muslim terrorist is the fault of Republicans and the NRA. Republicans cant even craft a message where American hating islamists shouldnt be allowed to immigrate to the US.
There will be blood
Sounds like the same idea Cornyn had. The DOJ would have to prove in court the person was a danger. And the Democrat fascists rejected that, because it meant another branch of government would have to approve what their bureaucracy wanted to have happen.
Frankly, I hate the idea because I think the liberals have infested the courts too much. But at least it was a "check" on the power of the executive branch.
But Democrats, never ones who are appreciative of individual liberty, reject the idea that their power be checked.
Your not helping our cause when you use made-up quotes. You are giving the gun grabbers ammunition by diminishing our credibility.
That statement of which you object to, comes from “from in Dreams in Folklore (1958), p. 33.”
Freud died in 1939.
The correct (paraphrased) quote from Freud is "The representation of the penis as a weapon, cutting knife, dagger etc., is familiar to us from the anxiety dreams of abstinent women in particular and also lies at the root of numerous phobias in neurotic people."
http://www.ammoland.com/2016/05/passing-along-fake-quotes-rumors-hoaxes-helps-gun-grabbers/
Is why I responded to you meme.
What about the Bill of Rights??? Oh, yeah, I forgot...the current government we have is a criminal government.
guilty before innocent
or as democrats say (or is that DC)
guilty before proven guilty.
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