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The howl against democracy
Spectator (UK) ^ | 26 June 2016 | Brendan O'Neill

Posted on 06/26/2016 7:52:21 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

The arrogance and disrespect of these turds is truly astonishing. There’s got to be a way to teach them a lesson that they won’t soon forget.


21 posted on 06/26/2016 10:00:57 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Lorianne

I despise socialists.


22 posted on 06/26/2016 10:02:00 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Aliska; Candor7; little jeremiah; PhilDragoo

The Real Face of the European Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WeURiShfU

now there’s a real eye-opener...


23 posted on 06/26/2016 10:32:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Brilliant. I salute you.


24 posted on 06/26/2016 10:55:32 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Article from the National Review I posted on FR ....LINK:

Brexit and the end of international progressive inevitability>>>

that’s the guy billy crystal wanted to be president. he sees no similarity with the revolt here in the states which is favoring trump for the same reasons he lists on his pro brexit screed.


25 posted on 06/26/2016 11:03:42 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Lorianne
a ‘howl of frustration’ (JK Rowling)

Always thought Rowling was a Muslim supporter. Ever notice that the only gay guy in her books got thrown off the top of the tallest tower?

26 posted on 06/26/2016 11:09:34 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you. DId you watch “Brexit The Movie”? I watched about half of it - I need to watch it all. Horrifying, I knew so little about the EU but hated it, after watching part of “Brexit The Movie” I hated it much more.

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k


27 posted on 06/26/2016 11:22:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks

I’m about half way through. Riveting of course.


28 posted on 06/26/2016 11:39:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks

I watched it all. Thank GOD they voted out of it!


29 posted on 06/27/2016 12:02:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Lorianne

Elites also say we must not allow states to decide issues like gay marriage or abortion


30 posted on 06/27/2016 3:14:40 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: little jeremiah

I watched it all. Well worth an hour of your time. Analogous, I think, to America’s surge for Donald Trump.

TC


31 posted on 06/27/2016 4:41:19 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: little jeremiah

thanks, like the man said at the end; what price freedom...

That EU is a frikken octopus that is sucking the life out of its member countries.


32 posted on 06/27/2016 5:03:42 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Lorianne
They don't like us. They really don't like us.

And that is the problem.

33 posted on 06/27/2016 5:08:36 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
You can’t win.
You can’t break even.
You can’t even get out of the game.

The Leaves have just proven Ginsberg’s theorem wrong.

That has yet to be seen. If the powers that be actually allow Britain to exit the EU, then I'd agree. It is entirely possible that TPTB will overturn this vote, and would be a great example of exactly how the theorem operates.

34 posted on 06/27/2016 6:26:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: Lorianne

A government that cannot abide by the consent of the governed has no legitimacy . Hence the Federal government of the US surrendered it’s legitimacy when it overruled the states on gay marriage.


35 posted on 06/27/2016 6:33:06 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As I indicated in other post, I downloaded the movie. So I could more closely examine some areas the producer brings out in what the EU really is, and how it operates.

Most of the full length versions I see at Utube will not allow the movie to be downloaded.
I found one that allowed it, after I had updated my Utube Downloader app.
I should have made note of what one, so that I could share that info with Freepers etc.. : (

For me it is not an issue. I have a copy on my PC.
36 posted on 06/27/2016 9:23:55 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......but alas! Honor must be earned...)
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To: Lorianne
‘The idea that somehow any decision reached anytime by majority rule is necessarily “democratic” is a perversion of the term’, says Harvard professor Kenneth Rogoff. Sometimes, democracy means making sure the people ‘avoid making uninformed decisions with catastrophic consequences’, he says.

This is utter nonsense. One of the principal criticisms against direct democracy is that it does result in "uninformed decisions with catastrophic consequences," as any casual reading of the history of Athens will demonstrate. If a demos has its decisions overturned by another body in government that is superior to it, then you don't have a democracy at all, you have an oligarchy or a republic, (equally noted is the tendency of a republic to turn into an oligarchy - ours has. That is, however, another conversation).

It is dismaying to hear this from a Yale professor - of economics, incidentally - who presumably ought to know the difference. It is less dismaying to hear it from J. K. Rowling, a spinner of fairy tales whose hefty bank account appears to have conferred a sense of political acumen for some unknown reason. The EU, however, is not Hogwarts, and the people in charge aren't faculty imbued with magical superpowers, even if occasionally they act that way.

37 posted on 06/27/2016 9:40:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Exactly. I can’t imagine what these people think democracy is.

That said, I’m not an advocate for direct democracy on a large scale (national matters). Works OK for smaller countries like Switzerland and on local issues. But not a great idea for entire large countries.

Still, if you’re going to have a national referendum, then you have to abide by the result. If they didn’t intend to do that, they should not have held the election in the first place. Seems more than dishonest to hold an election if you have no intention of abiding by the results should it not go your way.

They are playing with fire here.


38 posted on 06/27/2016 10:10:40 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Why is “white” an insult? Why is “old” an insult?


39 posted on 06/27/2016 10:14:06 AM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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To: generally

Don’t forget “white”. What a bunch of racists!


40 posted on 06/27/2016 10:15:21 AM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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