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Navy says American sailors blabbed to Iranian captors
NY Post ^ | June 30, 2016 | Bob Fredericks

Posted on 06/30/2016 3:49:25 PM PDT by Zakeet

The US sailors who were detained by the Iranian navy last winter provided their name, rank and serial numbers - and pretty much everything else their captors demanded, the US Navy said in a blistering report Thursday.

The 10 crew members, captured at gunpoint in the Persian Gulf on Jan. 12 by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, improperly revealed passwords for laptops and cellphones and even sensitive technical details about their two ships, including their top speed, capabilities and missions, the report said.

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The Navy report blamed the incident on a combination of poor planning, clueless leaders who did not properly consider how risky their actions were, a lack of crew oversight and low morale.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americainperil; iran; islaminside; military; navy; navy4iran; pentagon4alqaeda; waronterror
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To: Zakeet

For cryin’ out loud, are they gonna have to send everyone to SERE School?


61 posted on 06/30/2016 5:34:38 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Zakeet

Damn squids...lol


62 posted on 06/30/2016 5:35:46 PM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’d be surprised how often intelligence analysts use those books.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

In WWII when the Nazi Subs were patrolling the East Coast like they owned it, the U Boats would use the lights of Miami, Atlantic City and the other beach ‘resort’ areas to attack shipping which was hugging the coast line.

It took a lot to get those people on the Coast to ‘turn off the lights at night’..

Also, Capt Reinhart CO U123 transited Long Island Sound - using an Esso road Map to navigate - along with the lights. They made it into NY Harbor...

From Wikipedia, ref “Operation Drum Beat” good data on the 1941-42 times on the East Coast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Happy_Time


63 posted on 06/30/2016 5:38:44 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Beware good luck. Fattening hogs think themselves fortunate. old German proverb ")
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To: Zakeet

So today when this scathing report comes out about Obama’s feckless Navy, he sends out Ash Carter, who really should wear a jester’s cap on these occasions, to announce that now the trangender mentally ill will be welcomed into Obama’s military. The dozens of good officers who this traitorous Chimp in Chief fired can thank God they are no longer required to assist in the destruction of America’s armed forces.


64 posted on 06/30/2016 5:40:26 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: piasa

I loathe McCain as a politician. But Bud Day’s book says McCain was extremely brave while a POW. And since Bud Day was a Medal of Honor winner and a former cellmate...maybe he knew more than the Internet.


65 posted on 06/30/2016 5:46:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Travis McGee

I hope Ash Carter’s parents are no longer alive to see their son in such humiliating circumstances. They must really have something devastating on him.


66 posted on 06/30/2016 5:47:45 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Zakeet

This administration has ‘splinters in the windmills of their minds’.


67 posted on 06/30/2016 5:54:43 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: Travis McGee
Ash Carter's nose screams “alcoholic.” Of course heavy drinking may be the reason he's implementing these despicable policies upon our military...that and the fact that he and his boss are fundamentally evil.
68 posted on 06/30/2016 6:02:48 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (I'm not homophobic --I'm homonauseated.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee

The book/site below is not classified and has been used for decades to develop current Naval Orders of Battle for possible bad guys and their naval intentionhs. Then our plans to contain or block the bad guys/

What is classified is where/how we got the data on the officers and tied it into their plans.

That would not be available to the guys and gals on those boats.

This is an attempt to blame the sailors put into danger by stupid naval commanders instead of the commanders.

http://www.janes.com/magazines/ihs-janes-navy-international


69 posted on 06/30/2016 6:07:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We will begin to read about the HCexit, Ryexit, MCexit, OBexit, GOPexit, NATOexit to go with Brexit!)
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To: Capt. Tom

You are also expected to take a selfie with your captor and friend them on Facebook.....


70 posted on 06/30/2016 6:15:20 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: piasa

You can read the Executive Summary (redacted and Unclas) on CDR Salamander’s website. Answers a lot of questions being asked here, and plenty of fault at all levels.


71 posted on 06/30/2016 6:18:47 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: piasa

I still believe that if McCain was on those boats the outcome would have been the same. He would have performed equally as the other crewmen on board. No better, no worse. As far as being a POW, he even admits in his book that he was treated better than his fellow prisoners because of his daddy. Beyond that, he is despicable for betraying the pow’s left behind.


72 posted on 06/30/2016 6:33:44 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Zakeet; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


73 posted on 06/30/2016 6:35:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“I would love to have 3 minutes with those snowflakes to ask them in hindsight don’t you think it would have worked out better if you had brought those .50 cals around and blasted the two bass boats into oblivion then put a tow line on the disabled boat and hauled azz out.

Were those guns even armed and did they have ammo.

What were the ROE’s? (Rules of Engagement)

Even if armed, did they have to contact some Jagoff Jag lawyer before defending themselves?

Why did the one boat have engine failure. Was that due to recycled cooking oil being used as fuel?

Was the mission briefed before and all gear including GPS working and as well as the SAT radios.

Or were they ordered to get into the boats and just go without proper prep and ensuring that everything worked.

Had the crews trained as crews before the mission?

Did the Iranians use the female sailor to get info from the other sailors. Use your own definition of use.


74 posted on 06/30/2016 6:39:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We will begin to read about the HCexit, Ryexit, MCexit, OBexit, GOPexit, NATOexit to go with Brexit!)
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To: piasa

I read his entire, original, Newsweek interview from, I believe 1963 or 1964, and he never mentioned getting his arms broke.
He did mention that when they found out who his father was, the got really nice to him.


75 posted on 06/30/2016 6:47:17 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Bigg Red

Mark


76 posted on 06/30/2016 7:00:54 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: faucetman

You didn’t?

You must have a will of strongest iron! :-)


77 posted on 06/30/2016 7:05:52 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Grampa Dave

If a riverine boat in hostile foreign waters was not armed then we have officially entered lala land.

A band of drunk teenagers generally knows when its time to GTFO.

You dont need any training beyond basic to know to man weapons and put up a show of force while retreating out of a bad situation.

This was like an episode of F-Troop on the water.


78 posted on 06/30/2016 7:20:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Military tribunals for treason are in order. Each and every one of these IMPOSTERS should be executed. Wouldn’t surprise me if this wasn’t just another ‘drone giveaway’ plot hatched by Team Jarrett to accommodate her Iranian overlords.”

Yep. No telling what bit of technology had been stowed in the bilges of those two vessels. We used to give the Ruskies technology on a regular basis during the Cold War, simply to keep their threat believable when it came time for appropriations and defense spending. Watch this video to see who the culprits are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM


79 posted on 06/30/2016 7:20:50 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: Zakeet

I thought Juan McCain was going to soupena everybody in sight to get to the bottom of this. The fact that he didn’t tells me these sailors got nabbed on a secret mission — like delivering SEALS to that island. SEALS who are likely dead.


80 posted on 06/30/2016 7:33:18 PM PDT by Tallguy
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