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Top Trump VP candidate on abortion: “I think women have to be able to choose”
Hot Air.com ^ | July 10, 2016 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 07/10/2016 4:55:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

Is it fair to call him the frontrunner? Yesterday’s splashy WaPo story about Flynn’s rise through the VP ranks didn’t use that word specifically, but it sure made it sound like he’s the guy Trump is looking at most closely right now.

He’s a Democrat, pro-choice, and apparently a friendly acquaintance of Vladimir Putin. He’ll fit right in.

After weeks of focusing on a group of current and former elected officials in his search for a running mate, Donald Trump is increasingly intrigued by the idea of tapping retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn to project strength and know-how on national security, according to four people familiar with the vetting process…

The turn toward a military figure is being driven by Trump himself rather than by his advisers, the people said, and comes as the real estate mogul is telling his friends that national unrest may demand a “tough and steady” presence alongside him on the ticket.

In Flynn, they added, Trump thinks he would have a partner whom he trusts, based on their close working relationship over the course of the campaign on policy. And he likes the image of a businessman and a general coming to Washington as outsiders.

“Trump-Flynn. I’ve heard him say that, kind of test out the sound of it,” one source told WaPo. George Wallace and Ross Perot, two other populist “outsider” candidates, also chose servicemen as their VPs (Curtis LeMay and James Stockdale, respectively). WaPo noted of Flynn, though, that “his views on domestic policy are mostly unknown.” After this morning’s interview with ABC, they’re … pretty well known now:

Issues like abortion and same-sex marriage are not at the top of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn’s list of priorities, the former intelligence official and registered Democrat who is reportedly being vetted as Donald Trump’s running mate said Sunday.

“What people do in their private lives, these are not big issues that our country is dealing with that will cause our country to collapse,” Flynn told ABC’s Martha Raddatz on “This Week.” “I’m more concerned that our country could collapse because we are not dealing with education issues, immigration issues.”…

On abortion, he said, “I think it’s a — I think for women — and these are difficult issues but I think women have to be able to choose what they — you know, sort of the right of choice but I think that that’s a difficult legal decision that — and I think that women are so important in that decision-making process.”

Political media is wringing its hands on Twitter this afternoon that Flynn’s positions on social issues will sink him as a potential VP but I don’t see why. With respect to gay marriage, not only has Trump stayed far away from the subject (he initially disagreed with social conservatives about North Carolina’s law on transgender bathroom use, a proxy issue for LGBT views generally), the party itself may tweak the language in its platform this year to make it less critical of same-sex unions. On abortion, Trump has alternated from hardline pro-life to effectively pro-choice in the span of four days, telling reporters earlier this year that (a) women who abort once Roe is repealed and the practice is banned should face criminal punishment and (b) the abortion laws we have right now should be left alone. Years ago he famously called himself “very pro-choice”; since his emergence as a Republican political figure, he’s described himself as pro-life but still has flattering things to say about Planned Parenthood. He devotes about the same amount of energy trying to convince people that he’s staunchly anti-abortion as he does trying to convince them that he’s devoutly Christian. Which is to say, not much.

So go figure that he’d be considering Flynn. Evangelicals (at least the ones who don’t go to church regularly) supported him overwhelmingly in the primaries against social conservative Ted Cruz despite Trump barely making a pretense of sharing their religious values. If there’s any glaring lesson from the nomination battle this year, it’s that the GOP base will not use social issues as a litmus test provided you can convince them that you share their cultural values in other ways, like with ostentatiously politically incorrect views about mass deportation of illegals and banning Muslims from entering the country. Flynn’s a good match with Trump in that respect: He may be wildly out of sync with the GOP party line on abortion and gay marriage but he claims he was dismissed as head of DIA under Obama for being too politically incorrect about terrorism. If you’re looking to ingratiate yourself to Trump’s base, there’s no more sterling credential than being on Barack Obama’s bad side because you’re too much of an uncompromising hard-ass on confronting jihadis. And as you’ll see, Flynn gave the right answer in this morning’s interview on the other key litmus test, immigration, when asked. How do you feel about “undocumented” immigrants, Martha Raddatz asks. “Undocumented or illegal?” Flynn replies. “OK, so if it’s illegal, it’s illegal. If they’re here illegally then it’s illegal.” He doesn’t specifically say “they all need to go” but he’s got the logical foundation for Trump’s position.

Lest anyone doubt that his social views won’t be a problem for Trump’s core fans, let me remind you of this comment from Trumpkin Numero Uno last year:

I don't care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this immigration policy paper. http://t.co/l7nq8gN7i5

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) August 16, 2015

So there you go. As a Twitter pal said last night, if Trump ends up picking Flynn, we’ll have four Democrats on the top of the ballot this year — assuming, that is, that delegates allow it. Read this BuzzFeed piece about the fallback plan for anti-Trumpers in Cleveland if, as expected, they fail to dump Trump as nominee. The rules that bind delegates to vote for a presidential candidate according to the results of their state’s primary obviously don’t apply to VP candidates. Typically the delegates rubber-stamp whichever VP the presidential nominee chooses, but maybe not this year. They have it in their power, with a few tweaks to current rules, to defeat Trump’s pick and install their own pick as VP. “It’s a counterweight to Trump,” a source told BuzzFeed. “It’s the grassroots saying if you’re going to do this, you’re going to do it with our pick.” Trump may like the sound of “Trump/Flynn” but he may be stuck with the reality of “Trump/Cruz.” Just one question: Who the hell would want to be drafted to be Trump’s number two, especially if they’ve already endured the public humiliation of not being his handpicked choice? Why would Ted Cruz, eyeing a 2020 run, agree to serve on a ticket that seems highly likely to be defeated, maybe in a landslide, and which will taint him by association with whatever weirdness Trump injects into the campaign the rest of the way?

Two clips for you here, one of Flynn’s interview this morning (the abortion/SSM bit comes at 5:00) and one of Trump superfans Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich in 2008 discussing the worrisome possibility that John McCain might put — gasp — a pro-choice Democrat on the ticket in Joe Lieberman. Can’t wait for their reaction (especially Newt’s!) if Flynn is indeed the pick.

LT Gen Michael Flynn Interviwed by Martha Raddatz On "This Week" (7/10/2016) | FULL INTERVIEW



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: abortion; gaymarriage; gingrich; lgbt; michaelflynn; prochoice; prolife; putin; socialissues; vicepresident; vp
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To: Kaslin

next.


41 posted on 07/10/2016 5:55:49 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Sacajaweau

No He is going to be SECDEF


42 posted on 07/10/2016 6:21:01 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: Kaslin
I agree with him ... and all the others .... 100%

.... and if you choose to murder a human, you will be charged with 1st degree, pre-meditated murder.

Go 'head .... choose .....

43 posted on 07/10/2016 6:38:26 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true ... and it ticks people off)
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To: Kaslin

Throwin’ some red meat to the Cruz hardliners and the one-issue wonder yahoos?


44 posted on 07/10/2016 7:01:59 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Kaslin

Consider the source of this story, the Washington Compost now owned by the wealthy liberal Jeff Bezos of Amazon fame. Do not believe a word of it because Wapo supposedly has over 20 journalists working full-time on destroying Donald Trump’s bid for the now disgraced White House occupied by a gay Muslim communist intent on destroying America!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 07/10/2016 7:14:23 PM PDT by Stayfree
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To: Vic S
"I think Flynn has a very good chance to be VP. He’s just being political on this, trying to get Dems vote."

Reagan the Bushes gave us Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, Souter, and John Roberts, so I could care less what the VP says about Abortion.

46 posted on 07/10/2016 7:20:06 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: N9841A

The MSM started this line of questioning with Trump, too.


47 posted on 07/10/2016 7:29:01 PM PDT by Does so (Vote for Hillary...Stay Home...==8-O)
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To: SubMareener

Yup. Trump is interviewing for Cabinet level positions, not VP. With terrorism being a national security issue, Trump will negotiate and provide policy direction with a three star to execute war plans to clean up Obama’s and Kerry’s mess.


48 posted on 07/10/2016 8:03:06 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Agree


49 posted on 07/10/2016 8:26:35 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Kaslin

So?


50 posted on 07/10/2016 8:30:05 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Kaslin

I hope this is nothing but propaganda.


51 posted on 07/10/2016 8:33:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Does so

The MSM started this line of questioning with Trump, too.


Stirring the pot and trying to depress conservative support for Trump. It’s how the Kenyan beat Mr. 47% and the Dems are running the same play book again

BTW, just how many babies has the “anti-abortion” beltway GOP saved? My count is zero outside of maybe the Hyde amendment.


52 posted on 07/10/2016 8:58:39 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: datura

Another Allahpundit hit piece.

The only real piece he is would be POS.


He/she really is a POS Trump hater. And what is with the cowardly anonymity?


53 posted on 07/10/2016 9:00:31 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: catnipman

............and get on with the far more important pointless, inane post about why Trump should or should not have picked whomever he picked for VP.

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Nailed it!


54 posted on 07/10/2016 9:00:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: editor-surveyor

There are lots of rumors going around. Marsha Blackburn, who is my rep was this morning on Fox and Friends and reacted to the rumors that she was running for VP because Donald Trump asked her to speak at the Republican convention


55 posted on 07/10/2016 9:24:24 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needI have beeed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: RedStateRocker
Would you rather have a pro choice VP (an office ‘not worth a bucket of warm spit’ to quote one holder) or two or three SCOTUS picks who can actually change the course of events?

A pro-choice "centrist" DEMOCRAT VP to a President over 70. My answer to your question is neither. Flynn is not an acceptable choice, Trump needs to suck it up and pick someone else no matter how much he likes the idea.

56 posted on 07/10/2016 10:28:13 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: Kaslin; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; StoneWall Brigade; ...

I think the delegates have the right to choose someone else to be VP, if Trump makes the awful mistake of picking this LIBERAL.


57 posted on 07/10/2016 10:29:07 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: Kaslin

Not Flynn.

Pro-choice candidate will cause social conservatives to leave. Flynn could change to the three exceptions, the same as Trump. A general really is just a private citizen when it comes to opinions. Most of our citizenry don’t seriously reflect on the issues, imho. If they did they would all be some kind of pro-life m


58 posted on 07/10/2016 11:18:43 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Kaslin

Dat’s nice.....rumors is worth what rumors is worth.


59 posted on 07/11/2016 3:21:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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