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Police accidentally shot man in North Miami, union says
CNN ^ | July 22, 2016 | Joshua Berlinger

Posted on 07/22/2016 9:02:12 AM PDT by Trump20162020

Edited on 07/22/2016 10:52:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The police shooting of an African-American caregiver, who was lying in the street trying to help an autism patient, was accidental, according to the local police union representing the North Miami officer.

The officer had intended to shoot the patient, whom he thought posed a danger, but accidentally shot the caregiver instead, said John Rivera, the President of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackmales; charleskinsey; cops; donutwatch; florida; leo; licensetokill; miami; police; shooting
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To: zeugma

AGain, in case you missed it, I SAID that I wasn’t addressing this particular issue. A person sitting CAN present a threat, just as a person lying on the ground can still be a threat. Rodney King presented a threat as long as he resisted and refused to comply with lawful policy orders, whether on the ground or not.

The shoot in question certainly sounds like a gross error by this cop. But “unarmed” doesn’t mean anything, generally.


81 posted on 07/22/2016 10:33:02 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: mommab2003

I’m not comparing the two in the least, just addressing the “unarmed” qualifier.


82 posted on 07/22/2016 10:33:52 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: TexasGator

You oughtta know about trolling


83 posted on 07/22/2016 10:34:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Trump20162020

Pretty lame....


84 posted on 07/22/2016 10:36:28 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You're on fire, stupid!)
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To: oh8eleven

Ditto


85 posted on 07/22/2016 10:37:15 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You're on fire, stupid!)
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To: oh8eleven
I'm as big a supporter of the cops as you'll ever find, but this is just sooo wrong. <<<<

Yup!..my thoughts as well...Tragic actually....cop needs to be dealt with accordingly.....It's obvious now he should have NEVER been on the force

86 posted on 07/22/2016 10:38:17 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Lower Deck
What could possible make this shooting justifiable?

What makes you think you know all of the facts of this incident? A 5-second video snippet put out by cop-hating, BLM-loving, fact-averse CNN?

87 posted on 07/22/2016 10:39:30 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: Trump20162020

Cops have to use their sense of perception to evaluate a situation. The patient wasn’t threatening them. This is not due an apology. It deserves full restitution and discipline, not a criminal charge.


88 posted on 07/22/2016 10:40:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: fwdude

It’s the Split Second Guess Syndrome. But why, if the shot missed and it was really necessary to shoot the probably harmless man with the toy truck, wasn’t there an attempt at a second shot.

This does not look like even the most dubious of the BLM incidents.


89 posted on 07/22/2016 10:42:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fwdude

“A 5-second video snippet put out by cop-hating, BLM-loving, fact-averse CNN?”

All this over a Youtube video.


90 posted on 07/22/2016 10:44:25 AM PDT by sagar
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To: fwdude
What makes you think you know all of the facts of this incident?

OK, what missing fact could make this shooting justifiable?

91 posted on 07/22/2016 10:52:02 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: El Cid

Wow!
Maybe the cop didn’t know the gun was loaded?

Gee, really makes folks want to call the cops in event of a home invasion robbery. But one would hope at least, that after the cop shoots all the family members (and their dog...don’t forget to shoot the dog), the cop might also find time to shoot the bad guys too.

/s


92 posted on 07/22/2016 10:53:53 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (All change is progress.)
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To: Lower Deck
The police claim that they didn't hear him. So if they were so far away that they couldn't hear him and so far away that they couldn't determine the autistic kid was holding a truck then how could they possibly know that someone was in danger? BINGO. I have supported the Blue all the way, in fact, will be driving in a "Backing the Blue Rally" tonight. However, this crap has gotta stop. This case reminds of a hunter shooting at something he saw move but he's not sure what it is. You know, the kind that shouldn't own a gun?
93 posted on 07/22/2016 10:56:43 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: Trump20162020

So they are excusing the cop by saying that well, he had to shoot someone and it is too bad that he shot the therapist instead of the student. That sounds like a Margie Sanger rationalization.


94 posted on 07/22/2016 11:00:28 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Lower Deck
Again, this is CNN. Don't conservatives mistrust the MSM anymore?

Some questions to ask:
- How were the police made aware of the call? What did the caller who reported it say?
- How long were the police in contact with the subjects?
- What transpired before the short video clip?
- Were the subjects known to the police? Did they have a history of violence or crimes?
- Was the area of town a high-crime district? If so, what types of crime?
- Could the police tell what the autistic person was holding? How would the police know that he is autistic? Were they told?

I doubt you can answer any of these?

Police go into most situations complete blind, and have to listen to armchair quarterbacks pontificate about the facts police should have acted upon after they are known later.

95 posted on 07/22/2016 11:10:26 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: fwdude
I doubt you can answer any of these?

Sure can.

How were the police made aware of the call? What did the caller who reported it say?

911 call. Police were told someone was suicidal and had a gun.

How long were the police in contact with the subjects?

The cell phone video is several minutes long so probably for a period before the start of the video and for some time afterward when the shooting occurred. How much time would they need?

Were the subjects known to the police? Did they have a history of violence or crimes?

No. And no.

Was the area of town a high-crime district? If so, what types of crime?

Don't know but what difference does it make? The police were not responding to a report of a kidnapping or shooting or violent crime.

Could the police tell what the autistic person was holding? How would the police know that he is autistic? Were they told?

Listen to the video. They were told by the unarmed man that they shot.

96 posted on 07/22/2016 11:23:41 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: lee martell

This is North Miami were talking about.

They really shouldn’t be allowed to have their own department, used to be part of Dade County.

Doing a terrible job, maybe they can get George Zimmerman in there to head up training


97 posted on 07/22/2016 11:32:04 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Trump20162020

If he did not have a Magic Blue Costume on at the time he would be charged with:

1.Assault with a Deadly Weapon
2.Attempted Murder
3.Attempted Manslaughter
4.Using a Firearm during the Commission of a Violent Felony
5.Kidnapping, With Special Circumstances of using a Firearm during a Kidnapping.

This is a Bare Minimum List that EVERY OTHER CITIZEN WOULD BE CHARGED WITH!

Sounds like LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE


98 posted on 07/22/2016 2:46:33 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: eyeamok

I think just put the former officer in General Population for a few years.

Stupid bastard.

Some people should be made examples of.


99 posted on 07/22/2016 3:27:54 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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