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Democrats Fear ‘Secret Trump Vote’ That Doesn’t Show Up in Polling
Praxis ^ | Matthew Sheffield

Posted on 07/26/2016 1:07:06 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

Throughout the GOP primaries, online and automated surveys—which are generally less respected within the industry—indicated higher levels of Trump support than live ones. The discrepancy may have been a large reason why his Republican elite opponents refused to take the former reality star’s campaign seriously before it was too late.

A similar dynamic appears to be taking shape in the general election. Instead of taking false comfort, Democratic elites are sounding the alarm about the Shy Trump Supporter Effect.

Liberal pollster Celinda Lake is warning of a “secret Trump vote” which she discerned from differences between automated and live surveys conducted for the general election match-up.

“The pattern is in the online surveys, even if you control for demographics, Trump does three to nine points better than in telephone surveys,” Lake said in an interview with the Washington Examiner. She also believes that there are many blue-collar white voters who typically don’t vote in elections who might be interested in supporting Trump’s unconventional Republican campaign.

Worry about this voting bloc may have played a role in Hillary Clinton’s decision to pick Virginia senator Tim Kaine as her running mate despite her difficulty fending off a surprisingly strong primary challenge from progressive Vermont senator Bernie Sanders. While he has some liberal stances, Kaine has consistently shown an ability to get at least some white conservatives to vote for him.

(Excerpt) Read more at praxis.ink ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; polling; secrettrumpvote; trump
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1 posted on 07/26/2016 1:07:07 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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Serious question but no one knows who Kaine is. Even many political minded citizens don’t have a clue, outside Virginia, who the guy is.

He’s not a counter in the least to Trump.

White, male.

That’s it? That’s the appeal?


2 posted on 07/26/2016 1:17:15 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

They should be worried.

Kaine is a white male who took $160K in gifts while he was governor and was not prosecuted. Bob MacDonald took less and was prosecuted. His real crime was being a Republican.

Kaine is also a complete slob who looks awful on the trail, especially when compared to the professional, polished, presidential appearance of Mike Pence.

And don’t get me started on his voting record.


3 posted on 07/26/2016 1:26:26 AM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

If Kaine becomes VEEP, then Terry MacAuiliffe (AKA The Ultimate Clinton Insider) gets to appoint himself to the Senate when he gets term-limited out of the Virginia Governorship, and he doesn’t have to go out and get a real job.

At the end of the day, I think it is nothing more than this.


4 posted on 07/26/2016 1:30:28 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (The 2nd Amendment immediately follows the 1st because some people are hard of hearing...)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Liberal pollster Celinda Lake is warning of a “secret Trump vote”

You're about to be steamrolled by the silent majority Byatch!

5 posted on 07/26/2016 1:35:48 AM PDT by Bullish (That establishment heads from both sides are exploding over Trump is the very best part.)
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6 posted on 07/26/2016 1:40:03 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Onambla: Marxist-Muslim crack-smoking closet queen Exp 1-20-17)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Yup, an extra whitey on the ticket. Good move there Hillary.


7 posted on 07/26/2016 1:40:34 AM PDT by Bullish (That establishment heads from both sides are exploding over Trump is the very best part.)
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8 posted on 07/26/2016 1:44:14 AM PDT by Bobalu (Democrats use guns to shoot the innocent. Republicans use them for self-defense.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

The ‘Shy Tory’ vote in the UK has long been recognised as a genuine concept. It was seen most vividly in John Major’s unexpected 1992 General Election victory, and with David Cameron winning an unexpected majority in 2015.

If people think they will be judged and insulted by pollsters (or even neighbors in some areas) for voting Trump, then they will keep quiet, but they will still vote, with perhaps even a greater determination, for Trump in November.

The secret ballot will throw up a few surprises this year, I’m sure.


9 posted on 07/26/2016 1:47:03 AM PDT by Savrola
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Kaine has consistently shown an ability to get at least some white conservatives to vote for him.

So, Hillary Rotten Criminal is trying to scoop up the Sore Cruzermen, Trump is getting the Reagan Democrats, and the Bernouts go for the Green.

Trump wins.

10 posted on 07/26/2016 1:52:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: Bullish

The “secret Trump vote” may not be all that secret. Whatever else one may say of the Democrats, they have unusually sensitive feel for the way the vote may be going, and like a canary in a coal mine, are often the first indication that disaster may be about to occur.

Of course, “disaster”, in many instances and especially so in this case, is by no means a universal condition. Herself says The Donald threatens “America”, but the vision of America that Herself sees in no way resembles the Norman Rockwell version, and certainly does not reflect truth, justice, or even mercy.

The Oval Office is no place to work out your personal demons and internal conflicts. The Peter Principle has long been at work for Herself, as long ago she had been promoted beyond the level of her competence, which was sometime around when she thought she should no longer “stay at home and bake cookies”.


11 posted on 07/26/2016 1:53:03 AM PDT by alloysteel (Of course you will live in interesting times, Nobody has a choice, now.)
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This will surely be offset by the secret Hillary vote/s /msm


12 posted on 07/26/2016 2:03:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: jazminerose
Kaine is a white male who took $160K in gifts while he was governor and was not prosecuted. Bob MacDonald took less and was prosecuted. His real crime was being a Republican.

Excellent point.
13 posted on 07/26/2016 2:04:32 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: RatherBiased.com

When liberal friends get all frothing-at-the-mouth and screechy about Donald Trump...we do not engage them in a pointless shouting debate.
Conservatives simply glance at each other with a quiet and confident smile, secure in the knowledge we will actually show-up on Election Day to pull the lever for President Trump.


14 posted on 07/26/2016 2:07:32 AM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: PittsburghAfterDark; BufordP; GunsareOK; Angelwood

He is something of an ideologue.

I was aware of him and some of his statements when he was in office up here in the People’s Republic of Maryland.

He’s Fat Bottomed Girl’s running mate because she thinks like he does.

FReegards, ‘Pod.


15 posted on 07/26/2016 2:08:40 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: Blue Jays
Do not rest on your laurels Republicans and Conservatives! Get out and vote, get others to vote and beat Hilliary by a “surprising” landslide...please!!!
16 posted on 07/26/2016 2:18:30 AM PDT by Netz
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To: RatherBiased.com

The article makes clear the left’s control over the nation’s culture, media, and government. Why would anyone be afraid to declare their support for Trump? My guess is they fear being labeled unpopular, uncool, or worse. However, methinks the left has far less sway in the population than many think. Perhaps we will finally see the real sides drawn now that the people have a clear contrast in the two candidates.


17 posted on 07/26/2016 2:27:54 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Netz

“Do not rest on your laurels Republicans and Conservatives!
Get out and vote, get others to vote and beat Hillary by
a “surprising” landslide...please!!!”

-Netz


18 posted on 07/26/2016 2:30:09 AM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: RatherBiased.com

What I’m worried about is hillary’s secret dead people vote. There is an infinite number of them available.


19 posted on 07/26/2016 2:40:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !!)
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Of course there is a secret Trump vote. Who, in this day of threatened dictatorship out of Washington, is going to reveal that to some polling method when they do not know who they are talking to. Many people feel that they or their families will be punished somehow if they reveal that they do not like what has happened to this country and will vote against those responsible for it. Many feel scared and threatened by what is going to happen to them, to their ability to protect themselves against a hostile government and, to actually be able to provide basic survival for their families. They believe they know who the greatest enemy is and will vote to change things.


20 posted on 07/26/2016 3:44:31 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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