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Is U.S. Manufacturing Really in Decline?
Strategy+business ^ | July 26, 2016 | Daniel Gross

Posted on 07/28/2016 5:37:52 AM PDT by expat_panama

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There's a lot of controversy here, and this quote shows it:

...the talk surrounding U.S. manufacturing is one of relentless decline: a loss of jobs, the shutting down of factories, increased competition from foreign countries, a global war in which the U.S. seems to be on the losing end.

And of course, it’s true. At some level, manufacturing has declined dramatically — as a direct employer of American workers...

The idea is that if there are more and more unemployed factory workers then the U.S. manufacturing sector is collapsing. 

At the same time others point out that if America makes more stuff than ever then our manufacturing sector's great.  The difference of opinion revolves around the question of why we have a manufacturing sector in the first place: some say the the reason we build factories is for making things and others say we build factories so that's where the unemployed can sit while we give them money.

1 posted on 07/28/2016 5:37:52 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: bert

tx fer the headsup!


2 posted on 07/28/2016 5:39:14 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Is this an attempt to put a positive spin on Obama’s legacy?


3 posted on 07/28/2016 5:41:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: expat_panama

What US manufacturing?


4 posted on 07/28/2016 5:41:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Iron Munro

The steel plant in Bethlehem PA that’s now a casino?

The manufacturing plants that were scared out of Manhattan NY in the 1950s due to left-wing social policies that required increased taxation and regulation?

Alexander Hamilton may have had a big-government bent, but he sure was right about needing the means of “subsistence, habitation, clothing and defense” within our borders.


5 posted on 07/28/2016 5:45:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: expat_panama

U.S. Bureau of Labor and their statistics ?

Uh ha.

George Orwell, anyone?
Our other loyal government beanies say our unemployment rate is 5%


6 posted on 07/28/2016 5:47:06 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich ( Mr Trump, please stay the course and deliver.)
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To: expat_panama

There is some truth to this article. You can automate factories and produce more (& better quality) with fewer people. However, I also thought they changed the definition of manufacturing at some point, to include food service workers.


7 posted on 07/28/2016 5:51:34 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: expat_panama
Very nice post. I have been (unsuccessfully) making these same arguments to the Freepers for what seems like years. Deaf ears and disbelief is the normal response.

Hopefully your mileage will be better. But I wouldn't count on it.

Here is the graphic referred to in the article that, for me, makes the case that U.S. manufacturing is quite healthy and growing (despite the hit we took in 2008.)


8 posted on 07/28/2016 5:52:54 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: expat_panama

I reality manufacturing jobs are disappearing worldwide.


9 posted on 07/28/2016 5:54:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: expat_panama

Actually, it’s because manufacturing is becoming increasingly automated, and thus, creates fewer jobs.

And the displaced workers generally don’t have the skills or training, and, often, the aptitude, for the more difficult, technology-intensive jobs that remain.

This is an increasingly common problem as things go on: we are literally creating work that only a small portion of the population can do.

The flip side of the problem, is the one Mike Rowe often addresses: the lack of Skilled Labor. The schools push kids towards College and away from “vo-tech” fields, which are often hurting for lack of qualified skilled labor. . . .


10 posted on 07/28/2016 5:57:45 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: InterceptPoint

And why should we believe anything out of the executive department, again?


11 posted on 07/28/2016 5:58:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: expat_panama

There is some truth in this article. The big ticket items are made, or at least assembled in the U.S., but the items most Americans use are not. Look around your own house. Buicks are soon to be made in China.


12 posted on 07/28/2016 5:58:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarm)
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To: InterceptPoint
More properly, executive branch. They have been at this since the 1950s.
13 posted on 07/28/2016 5:59:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: expat_panama

The global company I work for is actually building a huge manufacturing plant at our campus. It will be a plant staffed by robots.


14 posted on 07/28/2016 6:01:01 AM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: Neoliberalnot

The bigger point is, what is manufacturing as percentage of US gross product. And also, could such a sector, as in the past, be large enough to eliminate (or prevent) a welfare state, thus encouraging the return of the family and keeping all Marxist social policies at bay.


15 posted on 07/28/2016 6:02:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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And why should we believe anything out of the executive department, again?

You don't have to if you don't want to.

But you should spend some time looking for other sources to justify a downturn in manufacturing output rather than simply dismissing the idea that it is actually growing. I don't think you will find it.

16 posted on 07/28/2016 6:03:13 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: InterceptPoint

You do realize that any executive department = Obama, right?


17 posted on 07/28/2016 6:04:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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You do realize that any executive department = Obama, right?

Of course. I also look at the data from 1980 to 1988. Do you believe that data?

18 posted on 07/28/2016 6:05:57 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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And why should we believe anything out of the executive department, again?

What statistics to you have from what source that contradicts it?

19 posted on 07/28/2016 6:06:17 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: expat_panama

Pro administration piece. Very suspicious. Seems like lots of this during the convention.


20 posted on 07/28/2016 6:07:58 AM PDT by The Continental Op
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