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Video: The shooting of Terence Crutcher; Shot and Killed by Cops While He Had His Hands Up
Hotair ^ | 09/20/2016 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/20/2016 9:28:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t make sense for him to be heading back to his vehicle instead of getting on the ground unless he was ignoring police pointing weapons at him.


21 posted on 09/20/2016 9:47:13 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: zeugma
Trouble is, sometimes you have 4 different cops shouting contradictory demands at the same time. Who do you obey, if you can't obey all of them simultaneously

You make a very good point. I don't remember where I read it, but a couple of years ago a white guy was stopped by cops after leaving a store (a Walmart?). Someone had reported that the guy was carrying a gun.

Different cops shouted different commands to the man. He followed one command, which meant he disobeyed another. And that got him shot. IIRC, he was killed.

22 posted on 09/20/2016 9:47:59 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: rbg81

Don’t assume the man was disobeying the cops. Lots of videos on You Tube of people doing what a cop ordered them to do and then getting shot becuase they did it.


23 posted on 09/20/2016 9:49:36 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: Reno89519

>The video does raise questions

Yeah, like why did the perp retreat to his vehicle while officers of the law had weapons trained on him and telling him not to?

I’m going with suicide by cop.


24 posted on 09/20/2016 9:50:01 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Moonman62

The fact that there wasn’t a weapon in the car doesn’t affect the fact that he was acting like there was. We may not have seen the final furtive movement (which may have been triggered by the taser firing), but his behavior up to that point raises serious suspicions of intent & ability.
He had the ability to get a gun if there was one (no indication of whether there was or wasn’t) by just reaching in the car,
he had the opportunity to get a gun (...) within arm’s reach, and
he was exuded jeopardy by confident action while under lethal threat.

May have been a bad shoot, strictly speaking, but he lured the police into it.


25 posted on 09/20/2016 9:51:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Women cops far more likely to shoot because being weaker and smaller, more situations can be claimed “they fear for their lives”.”

And it would undermine equal opportunity, affirmative action, etc. if male cops do things a female cop couldn’t do, like physically subduing someone uncooperative, so they have to be more prone to shoot too.


26 posted on 09/20/2016 9:53:48 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: rbg81
why would you ever disobey a cops order when they have guns trained on you?

Crack. Angel Dust. Your favorite NFL player telling you that cops are full of sh**.


27 posted on 09/20/2016 9:56:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever the real facts are is not important, the BLM narrative template is now the basis for every police shooting...

cops murdered him because he was black...

there is no other explanation...

facts be dammed...


28 posted on 09/20/2016 9:57:22 AM PDT by Popman
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To: zeugma

“Who do you obey, if you can’t obey all of them simultaneously? “

I’m pretty sure turning around and walking away is the wrong answer.


29 posted on 09/20/2016 9:59:49 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Do we have any stats to back that up—or is that just supposition on your part?


30 posted on 09/20/2016 9:59:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mr. K

Exactly. Was she supposed to wait and see what surprise he was going to pull out of his car? Was she supposed to assume it was a thank you card he was reaching for and not a weapon?

Once again, if he had followed commands, he’d be alive. Is there some law I missed stating that blacks don’t have to comply with police commands.


31 posted on 09/20/2016 10:00:37 AM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: SeekAndFind

Was the vehicle disabled as first reported or not, that seems to be an essential question.


32 posted on 09/20/2016 10:00:58 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: chris37

What? Innocent until proven guilty?

What planet are you on? ;-)


33 posted on 09/20/2016 10:01:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: wastoute

Agree. Pshaw!


34 posted on 09/20/2016 10:01:25 AM PDT by sheana
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To: rbg81

Yup. Even better, don’t put yourself in a position where cops are pointing guns at you!

Although to be fair, I found myself there once. Going on a late night walk and apparently I matched the description of a perp who was in the neighborhood. Got surrounded by multiple officers with guns drawn at the same time. Scared the heck out of me. But I simply complied with all orders, presented my identification very slowly when asked, and made sure to keep my hands in plain view. Also made clear that while I had a CCW permit, I was not carrying and offered to let them search me.

When they realized I wasn’t the perp, they gave my identification back and offered me their names and badge numbers in case I wanted to file a complaint. I declined. They were just doing their jobs. PS The perp was a serial rapist and they did get him.


35 posted on 09/20/2016 10:05:33 AM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: 9YearLurker

I don’t know!

I think I am on Planet Floridia!

I’m tryin’a think of the last time I di’n’ do nuffin’ and had multiple cops with weapons drawn and a helicopter on me.

Damn helicopters ain’t got nuthin’ better to do than fly around harassing innocent people!?

Madness.


36 posted on 09/20/2016 10:06:01 AM PDT by chris37 (How do you make Republicans turn on their own candidate? Sneak up behind them and say "Boo".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh, no... he did not have his hands up. He had HAD his hands up, while he walked to his SUV. Then he reached into the SUV. After a few weeks of rioting, we’ll find out what the police say happened.


37 posted on 09/20/2016 10:06:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In dealing with any cop when on.is in a law enforcement situation as the enforceee is to keep it from getting to where the cop feels impelled to draw a gun. Otherwise, one is a finger twitch away from being dead or permanently maimed. IMHO that’s probably why so many M&P weapons have two stage triggers.


38 posted on 09/20/2016 10:06:41 AM PDT by libstripper (oHillary is willing to risk her own life to protect her secretive nature. She would rather go to her)
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To: SeekAndFind

Look how liberal our culture has become:

If this happened in 1965 the people would have said “he got what he deserved when he did not obey the policemen.”

Today: “The dirty cops shot an innocent person for no reason other than it was an easy way to make an arrest...dead or alive......worse yet the victim was “pure as the driven snow” and had just left Sunday School and was going to pick his sick mother up and take her to the doctor.”

Up until the mid 60’s the cops would shout “stop, or I will shoot” and if you did not stop...they would shoot and we had much better respect for law and order back then.....NOT TODAY!


39 posted on 09/20/2016 10:07:41 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: lacrew
SOURCE: Terence Crutcher, Man Killed by Tulsa Police, Was Family Man Who Sang in Church Every Sunday, Twin Sister Says
40 posted on 09/20/2016 10:08:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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