Posted on 09/22/2016 8:23:07 AM PDT by GilGil
Full Title: MORE MEDIA LIES=> NBC-WSJ Poll with Hillary Up 6 Points Is Weighted with 14% more Democrat Voters!
The liberal media and #NeverTrumpers cheered a new NBC/WSJ poll showing Hillary Clinton up by 6 points nationally.
This was the first bit of positive news for Sick Hillary in weeks.
But, of course, as is the case with EVERYTHING the liberal media reports these days, there’s more to the story… If you click on NBC poll and scroll all the way down looking for some information that would lead to her having such a huge advantage when we know it’s not true, you find this—
They ask on question QF1b/c If you voted yes in the 2012 election whom did you vote for?
Get this… 47% Obama 33% Romney
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
While that’s true, I don’t think Romney was really ever up in any poll at this point in time.
“Now I understand how they were able to make Carter look like he was ahead right up until he got clobbered.”
“I still recall the headline in my local paper the Monday before election day 1980: “Carter Pulls Even With Reagan.”
Special Report
How Carter Beat Reagan
Washington Post admits polling was “in-kind contribution”; New York Times agenda polling.
By Jeffrey Lord – 9.25.12
Dick Morris is right.
Here’s something Dick Morris doesn’t mention. And he’s charitable.
Remember when Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980?
That’s right. Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980.
In a series of nine stories in 1980 on “Crucial States” — battleground states as they are known today — the New York Times repeatedly told readers then-President Carter was in a close and decidedly winnable race with the former California governor. And used polling data from the New York Times/CBS polls to back up its stories.
Four years later, it was the Washington Post that played the polling game — and when called out by Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins a famous Post executive called his paper’s polling an “in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.” Mondale, of course, being then-President Reagan’s 1984 opponent and Carter’s vice president.
All of which will doubtless serve as a reminder of just how blatantly polling data is manipulated by liberal media — used essentially as a political weapon to support the liberal of the moment, whether Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984 — or Barack Obama in 2012.
First the Times in 1980 and how it played the polling game.
The states involved, and the datelines for the stories:
· California — October 6, 1980
· Texas — October 8, 1980
· Pennsylvania — October 10, 1980
· Illinois — October 13, 1980
· Ohio — October 15, 1980
· New Jersey — October 16, 1980
· Florida — October 19, 1980
· New York — October 21, 1980
· Michigan — October 23, 1980
Of these nine only one was depicted as “likely” for Reagan: Reagan’s own California. A second — New Jersey — was presented as a state that “appears to support” Reagan.
The Times led their readers to believe that each of the remaining seven states were “close” — or the Times had Carter leading outright.
In every single case the Times was proven grossly wrong on election day. Reagan in fact carried every one of the nine states.
Here is how the Times played the game with the seven of the nine states in question.
• Texas: In a story datelined October 8 from Houston, the Times headlined:
Texas Looming as a Close Battle Between President and Reagan
The Reagan-Carter race in Texas, the paper claimed, had “suddenly tightened and now shapes up as a close, bruising battle to the finish.” The paper said “a New York Times/CBS News Poll, the second of seven in crucial big states, showing the Reagan-Carter race now a virtual dead heat despite a string of earlier polls on both sides that had shown the state leaning toward Mr. Reagan.”
The narrative? It was like the famous scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy and her friends stare in astonishment as dog Toto pulls back the curtain in the wizard’s lair to reveal merely a man bellowing through a microphone. Causing the startled “wizard” caught in the act to frantically start yelling, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” In the case of the Times in its look at Texas in October of 1980 the paper dismissed “a string of earlier polls on both sides” that repeatedly showed Texas going for Reagan.
Instead, the Times presented this data:
A survey of 1,050 registered voters, weighted to form a probable electorate, gave Mr. Carter 40 percent support, Mr. Reagan 39 percent, John. B. Anderson, the independent candidate, 3 percent, and 18 percent were undecided. The survey, conducted by telephone from Oct. 1 to Oct. 6, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
In other words, the race in Texas is close, assures the Times, with Carter actually in the lead.
What happened? Reagan beat Carter by over 13 points. It wasn’t even close to close.
http://spectator.org/articles/34732/how-carter-beat-reagan
Gateway Pundit is being blocked by the Bad Think Police here at work. What is the specific partisan breakdown of this poll?
Not only is the spread way out of proportion to any realistic voter model, but those demographics numbers presented are the REGISTERED voter numbers BEFORE they purged to Likely voters, meaning there was another layer of data manipulation before they got to the completely bogus poll results.
One of the most fraudulent polls I have ever seen.
See post #23
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And, shazamm!, who do they tap to moderate the first debate?
And post 25
Makes sense if the electorate hadn’t changed much in the past 36 years. It has, and, sadly, for the worse.
I know and I know Trump is doing well in recent polling, I’m just saying I can see the electorate backing either. It’s not an endorsement of Hillary, it’s an indictment of the electorate.
This is the part that NO ONE can ignore!!
Lefties have to build multiple narratives so they can say “The polls showed here ahead, so Republicans tampered with the votes”.
Simply put it out there so the lying leftist hack POS will regurgitate and cause problems.
Thanks!
It is normal to weight polls. However, it is not proper to over-weight polls. It is like handicapping in golf. You would not give a bunch of free handicap strokes to a guy who is a scratch golfer. I would add weight to the dem side in a poll, but not 14% more.
Beyond the Obama/Romney breakout that everyone is pointing out, I have to question the 5% of the 86% percent who voted in 2012 that they voted for someone other than Obama/Romney. That’s 5.8% of the voters, far more than the 1.56% that actually voted 3rd party/other in the 2012 election.
This election is one bug eye bobblehead from being over. My money is on Monday night. Trump knows she’s going to go twitchy at some point.
No one is turning out the vote for poor tired old white rich crooked Hillary Clinton...Trump in an electoral landslide.
Less than $10,000 .............................4% %
$10,000 and $20,000 ..........................6%
$20,000 and $30,000 ...........................8%
$30,000 and $40,000 ...........................9%
$40,000 and $50,000 ...........................9%
$50,000 and $75,000 ...........................18%
Between $75,000 and $100,000 ..................13%
More than $100,000 ............................26%
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