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Pope Francis Calls Woman with Sex-change Operation a ‘Man’ and Calls Partners ‘Married’
Life Site News ^ | October 3, 2016 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 10/03/2016 1:58:26 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod

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To: RedWing9
Trying to change the sinner is not standing up to “secular winds”??

Permitting a woman living as the spouse of another woman to receive Communion will garner a very warm afterlife for a priest. For the Pope to use it as an example of good pastoral behavior? I shudder to think.

41 posted on 10/03/2016 7:32:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: RedWing9

“Pope Francis has nevertheless chosen to refer to a woman who underwent a sex-change operation as a “man,” and also referred to her as having “married” another woman and admitted to receiving them in the Vatican last year.”

Gee, and I thought that is a quote directly from the article?


42 posted on 10/03/2016 7:45:53 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Jeff Chandler

That’s not how I read the Pope’s quote. But however, if that is the case, why is it false if it aligns to the parable in Luke where Christ admonishes the Lawyer for not taking care of the beaten/robbed man?

I do not think the Pope is ignoring the truth merely for befriending the sinner.


43 posted on 10/03/2016 7:46:11 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: FourtySeven

Then he should keep his missinterpreted-as progressive mouth shut.


44 posted on 10/03/2016 7:48:54 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

The Pope received “a letter from a Spaniard who told me”.... the Pope did not declare this person as woman or man, nor married or not. The Pope referenced that the person stated this or that, it’s called context to help you understand the story.

Read the direct quote at the end and juxtapose it to the quote in the article that you then misinterpreted.


45 posted on 10/03/2016 7:51:49 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: BlessedBeGod

The reign of this Pope is like a train wreck in slow motion.


46 posted on 10/03/2016 7:54:22 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: FourtySeven

He sure seems to be mis-interpreted a lot...


47 posted on 10/03/2016 7:56:06 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: servo1969

Is the pope catholic?

I keep wondering...


48 posted on 10/03/2016 7:57:51 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: RedWing9

Sorry I still stand by my opinion.


49 posted on 10/03/2016 8:10:53 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: broken_arrow1

Yes, by those who only want to tear him down. Including apparently yourself, whom after being disproved can do nothing by assassinate some more...


50 posted on 10/03/2016 8:14:57 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: RedWing9
I do not think the Pope is ignoring the truth merely for befriending the sinner.

By using the story of the old priest who gives Communion to the unrepentant sinner he is conferring Papal approval to sin.

51 posted on 10/03/2016 8:16:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: RedWing9

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as are those of us who have taken issue with this Pope. This Pope has created a firestorm within the Catholic Church by reason of the things he has said and done. I’m not a Catholic, so I don’t have any reason to see him as anyone but just another human being. Seems though, that a number of Catholics here on FR have also taken exception to the way he comports himself. Follow hilm or don’t follow him, that’s your choice. FWIW, I’ve had it with the religion into which I was born and have given up on it completely. I have a personal believe in God as a “Christian” and I don’t need or want other mortals who merely profess to be better than I am, telling me I’m not good enough all the while they are reaching into my wallet. I also don’t need or want all the “rituals.”


52 posted on 10/03/2016 8:19:23 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Jeff Chandler

>>By using the story of the old priest who gives Communion to the unrepentant sinner he is conferring Papal approval to sin.
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...which makes him Satan’s “Helper”.


53 posted on 10/03/2016 8:19:58 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: RedWing9

Ooooookkkk...best keep you r preaching to your own flock there preacher. He’s said plenty wrong, indicating he is a false pope. It’s happened before, read your history.


54 posted on 10/03/2016 11:37:43 AM PDT by Az Joe (Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”)
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To: RedWing9

Nice words, and you’re right.

But I still think the Pope is daffy.


55 posted on 10/03/2016 1:40:06 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jeff Chandler

Wrong....

“the old one, he would say: ‘How long has it been since you confessed? Come, come, let’s to so that I can confess you and you can receive communion.’”

The “old one” asked the sinner to confess and therefore repent.


56 posted on 10/04/2016 6:45:45 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Amazing.


57 posted on 10/04/2016 6:47:32 AM PDT by ZULU (Where the HELL ARE PAUL RYAN AND MITCH MCCONNELL ?????)
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To: vette6387

Yes, I am entitled to my opinion, and you are also. However, neither of us are entitled to manipulate words to result in an outcome that suits our purpose, aka lots of Freepers that seem to manipulate the Pope’s words (much like they do during the primaries when they support candidate a/b/c).

I’m perfectly fine with your practicing Christianity without “Religion”, I believe just like you that the differences between many are simple as small t traditions (in your vernacular “rituals”). I believe your challenge is with your experience directly impacted by humans, whom you have assigned as ‘know-it-alls’ - Yep, I’ve experienced those too, however I accepted that all have failed in some way and the only way to change them is through us imparting the Holy Spirit, through contact. You’ve chosen to become a “hermit”, that’s fine. But don’t assuage all of us who prefer other evangelistic means.


58 posted on 10/04/2016 6:53:22 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: Az Joe

I have read history sir, and much to my chagrin it would seem that there is a group of people who don’t want to minister to sinners and those that do.

If you consider preaching my attempt to point out flaws in a media article that absolutely lies about what the Pope said, then I propose that you don’t belong in FR. For FRs mission is to combat the crazed media that continuously lies about Conservatives and our candidates.

And yes, I’ve read Amoris Laetitia, and many articles here decrying it’s content. The challenge, which I’ve discussed above, is that many jump to conclusions based on media headlines, or media manipulation, when in fact when you dig deep what you find is a different. If you are willing to dig deep...


59 posted on 10/04/2016 7:00:32 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: RedWing9
The “old one” asked the sinner to confess and therefore repent.

Then why was she and her "wife" received by the Pope? I'll tell you why.

Because the Jesuit way of "walking with on their journey" has nothing to do with repentance, but everything to do with acceptance, sin and all.

60 posted on 10/04/2016 8:16:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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