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You have one month left to buy a Windows 7 PC
zdnet ^ | September 30, 2016 | Ed Bott

Posted on 10/03/2016 4:54:44 PM PDT by catnipman

If you want a new PC running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, you'll have fewer options beginning on Nov. 1. Here's what the end-of-sales deadline means.

(Excerpt) Read more at zdnet.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computers; microsoft; october; pc; windows; windows10; windows7
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Microsoft will enforce October 31, 2016 as the cutoff date that they allow PC makers to sell PCs with Windows 7 Pro pre-installed. W7 Pro will be "supported" by Microsoft through 2020, though of course W7 will work just fine after that without Microsoft updates, which I've already turned off anyway since they are so troublesome to stability.

Whether Microsoft will be forced to extend this cutoff date is unknown.

Windows 10 is the worst operating system Microsoft has ever made; it has been rebuilt under the hood to be a cell phone operating system, it is has builtin advertising, massive builtin spyware that is nearly impossible to disable, and worst of all, automatic updates that can't be turned off even when the updates clobber hundreds of thousands of PCs. In point of fact, both major and minor faulty Windows 10 updates have been killing PCs at almost unbelievable rates ever since Windows 10 has been released. Once the forced update to Windows 10 ended this past July, Windows 10 market share has not only quit growing, but has started to shrink.

If you need a new PC and don't want to face the agony of Windows 10, you've got less than four weeks.

I recommend Optiplex Desktops with W7 x64 Pro and E5470 or E5570 Latitude laptops with W7 x64 Pro.

Intel i5 CPU, 4-8GB RAM 500GB-1TB HD or SSD, DVD RW, USB 3.0, HDMI are the basic recommended specs I recommend. I don't recommend discrete graphics chip as they burn power, heat up, have very complex drivers, and are not needed except for gamers.

New Optiplex 3020's with the above specs are around $750.00 from Dell, including 3 year onsite Dell factory warranty.

New Latitude E5x70s run around $1,000.00, including the extra cost to bump the warranty to 3 years.

Panasonic Toughbooks like the CF-54 (which I consider the crème de la crème of laptops) with specs similar to the above are around $1,700:

http://business.panasonic.com/toughbook/semi-rugged-laptop-toughbook-54.html

Replacing an HD with a 500GB Samsung EVO 850 SSD adds about $170.00 to the above prices, but REALLY turbocharges speeds.

1 posted on 10/03/2016 4:54:44 PM PDT by catnipman
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To: catnipman

I’m posting on my dual 5.25” floppy drive computer with my 12,400bps connection to the internet and I have zero complaints.


2 posted on 10/03/2016 4:56:45 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: catnipman

There is no agony of Windows 10.

It’s great.


4 posted on 10/03/2016 5:03:41 PM PDT by chris37 (How do you make Republicans turn on their own candidate? Sneak up behind them and say "Boo".)
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To: catnipman

A couple of software developers have windoze 10 laptops and have numerous small problems.

10 will come to us all there sooner or later.

At least it’s not ME.


5 posted on 10/03/2016 5:04:09 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: catnipman

i agree that windows 7 is far superior to windows 10


6 posted on 10/03/2016 5:04:27 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: catnipman

Who needs Microsoft’s underhanded garbage.

I left them a few months ago, now living life on an Apple.


7 posted on 10/03/2016 5:06:30 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: faithhopecharity

Corporate IT departments are sticking with 7 Pro.


8 posted on 10/03/2016 5:07:09 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: catnipman

I took my old laptop (slow) and started running Linux (it’s fast), I’m still way behind the learning curve on Linux, but I hope to learn more gradually.

Perfect use for an old PC. An 8-10 year old PC/laptop will run lightning fast on Linux.


9 posted on 10/03/2016 5:08:12 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: catnipman

Why would anyone still use windows??? Is it the same people that use AOL?


10 posted on 10/03/2016 5:09:01 PM PDT by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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There is no agony of Windows 10.

It’s great.?

If you enjoy having spyware, it's a lot cheaper to just run stuff you find on shady websites.

11 posted on 10/03/2016 5:09:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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i see, interesting!

windowz 10 causes screen image to jump on its own to tiny microscopic size, unreadable, you then have to manually kick it up several size settings to get back to a normal useable screen display. windows 7 for all its issues does nothing this disruptive. ALSO windows 10 will after awhile turn off your one-click links to programs you use.... and also turn off your Search command box (so you can’t get to your programs that way either)

very very disturbing when you are doing something important (like posting to FR>?)


12 posted on 10/03/2016 5:10:02 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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We have about 12 devices counting our phones in our family of three.
I have 4 android tablets of which I gave one away to a niece for her studies.
Three Ipad devices,
A windows 7, 2 windows 8.1 touch screen and an apple laptop.
An Iphone 7 plus and the wife a 7.

Tablets are for travel, wife wanted the Apple laptop for college which is not easy to work with and she loves mostly the Lenovo Core i5 and I prefer the Lenovo touch screen laptops with lots of ram and CPU.

13 posted on 10/03/2016 5:10:27 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LucyT
Who needs Microsoft’s underhanded garbage.

I left them a few months ago, now living life on an Apple.

I think underhanded garbage is baked into the cake with any corporate computer system. My next upgrade is going to be some version of Linux.

Data mining by my political enemies is really something I don't need.

14 posted on 10/03/2016 5:11:07 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fitzy_888
Perfect use for an old PC. An 8-10 year old PC/laptop will run lightning fast on Linux.

That's probably where I am headed once Win 7 Pro isn't supported with security patches on my PC and laptop. I won't be able to get my wife to use Linux on her PC, but she's spending 99% of her "PC" time on her Kindle Fire as it is. Maybe a Linux firewall with her PC.

15 posted on 10/03/2016 5:12:21 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: wally_bert

“10 will come to us all there sooner or later.”

Not here. I took Windows 7 off of my desktop and laptop and installed Linux Mint 18. I love it.


16 posted on 10/03/2016 5:16:06 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: DiogenesLamp

My girlfriend works in a public school, they are pushing those stupid Google Chrome books hard. You can’t do anything without an Internet connection, which means they can watch every keystroke real time.


17 posted on 10/03/2016 5:16:43 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Dalberg-Acton

There is a mix of Doze 7, 10, Ubuntu and Mint at home.


18 posted on 10/03/2016 5:18:28 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: faithhopecharity

BBB


19 posted on 10/03/2016 5:18:57 PM PDT by thinden
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To: DiogenesLamp

I agree with everything you said.


20 posted on 10/03/2016 5:19:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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