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Will Trump Make a Race of It in the Debates?
Townhall.com ^ | October 9, 2016 | Michael Brown

Posted on 10/09/2016 4:17:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

In the midst of the most debate-heavy week of the fall campaign season, with the vice presidential debate last Tuesday and the second presidential debate Sunday, let's look at what remains uncertain about this year's bizarre contest.

For those of you who are reading this column after Sunday night, the first and largest uncertainty will be partially resolved: Will Donald Trump put in a debate performance that makes him competitive with Hillary Clinton, as he was before the Sept. 26 debate?

Trump has boasted that he doesn't bother with debate prep, but surely someone who has his attention has pointed out that it's not to his advantage to respond to Clinton's goads like an out-of-control bull. He might have taken the same lesson from watching Mike Pence deflecting Tim Kaine's jabs or from reviewing the first 20 minutes of his own performance Sept. 26.

There are plenty of targets for Trump attacks. Clinton has promised to extend both of President Barack Obama's historic policy initiatives (as described by the millennial generation's Henry Kissinger, his aide Ben Rhodes), Obamacare and the Iranian nuclear deal. Neither is popular.

Last week in Michigan Bill Clinton, more interested than Obama and his wife in how policy works on the ground, noted that under Obamacare, people "wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world." Even The New York Times has run a story admitting that Obamacare is foundering and needs major revision.

As for the Iranian nuclear deal, Trump can repeat his previous denunciations. He might also suggest how he would replace the Obama-Kerry groveling diplomacy to Vladimir Putin with using American leverage to outmaneuver a skillful but (he should concede) malign adversary.

If Trump were not to improve in debates, much uncertainty would be leached out of the campaign. Current polling shows him trailing nationally and in target states by margins ranging from large to perceptible. Straight-line extrapolation produces an electoral vote margin much like 2012's 332-206 in favor of the Democrats.

There would remain questions about whether Republicans could run far enough ahead of him to hold their majorities in the Senate (quite possibly) and the House (very likely). But you probably wouldn't have to stay up late on election night to see who's elected president.

It'd be another thing if Trump were to do well in the debates or if Clinton were to crumple or come across as annoying as Kaine.

One reason is that in a race that's close to even nationally, Trump might have an advantage in the Electoral College. Obama carried 115 of 130 electoral votes in the 10 2012 target states; if there are shifts, Democrats have more to lose than Republicans. And as David Byler of RealClearPolitics points out, Trump's appeal, insofar as it's different from that of previous Republicans, means that he's trading votes in safe Republican states for votes in target states.

His weakness among college graduates in such places as north Dallas and west Houston threatens to cut Republican margins in states such as Texas. But his potential strength -- visible in pre-first debate polls -- among non-college-educated whites could provide decisive votes in states with older blue-collar whites, such as Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin and Nevada, maybe even in Pennsylvania and Michigan.

Another uncertainty is something pollsters can't accurately project: turnout. Reassembling Obama's 51 percent coalition requires robust turnout among blacks, Hispanics and young people. Their turnout has been low in off-year elections, and turnout generally, after rising in the Bush years, has been falling since 2008.

Blacks are unlikely to provide Clinton with as much support as they did the first black president, and polls have found Hispanics less interested in the campaign than whites or blacks.

Young people are a special problem for Clinton, who seems to repel them. Washington Post reporter James Hohmann tracked a young Clinton staffer canvassing around the 65,000-student Ohio State campus. In two hours, the number of people he got to register or sign a card committing to vote: zero. Clinton's organizational edge -- 57 offices, 300 paid staff in Ohio alone -- may not prove cost-effective.

The enormous edge in television advertising she's had heretofore may not, either. In The Weekly Standard, Jeffrey Anderson pointed to evidence that when Trump has reduced Clinton's TV spending advantage, he's done better in polls -- and he has been raising enough money to reduce her edge in the weeks left to go.

Odds clearly favor Clinton. But if Trump can figure out how not to flub debates, uncertainty will increase.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debates; donaldtrump; hillaryrottenclinton
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1 posted on 10/09/2016 4:17:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

? Make a race of it?

Come on. This time last cycle, Romney was losing. Trump isn’t.

This week doesn’t look good: the establishment of the Beltway Uniparty has come out gunning for him. But this IS a race.


2 posted on 10/09/2016 4:20:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin
Best line in the piece is at the end, describing Hitlery's failure with young voters:

"Washington Post reporter James Hohmann tracked a young Clinton staffer canvassing around the 65,000-student Ohio State campus. In two hours, the number of people he got to register or sign a card committing to vote: zero."

Warms my heart.

3 posted on 10/09/2016 4:23:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin

The short ans: Not if the old media can arrange to steal the election along with millions of illegal aliens advancing the Rat parties technique of voter fraud.


4 posted on 10/09/2016 4:25:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve heard it said that Twitter’s and Facebook’s numbers for Hillary’s revealed Wikileaks material far outpaces those for the Trump tapes. I bet there are a lot of young people and others who are absolutely enthralled with her “sand ni^^ers” remarks and strong support for outsourcing, lol.


5 posted on 10/09/2016 4:27:47 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: SoFloFreeper
This week doesn’t look good: the establishment of the Beltway Uniparty has come out gunning for him. But this IS a race.

I'm hoping the GOPe have clearly seen it's us against them. Even little ol' Joe Heck from NV (running for Reid's seat) got boo'd yesterday as he disavowed Trump and asked for him to step aside. Ryan got boo'd, too. I'm praying many more will receive this response from us.

This won't take out Trump and the Hillary/Bush cabal will keep throwing garbage his way. Pray for Trump and pray for the U.S.

6 posted on 10/09/2016 4:28:21 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: Kaslin

Trumps going to win by a landslide.


7 posted on 10/09/2016 4:28:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper
If we can all promote Trump as the third-party candidate who will not be sold out to political parties, we can win over the Sanders voters, the undecided, and just about everyone else who gets the hypocrisy of the Uniparty.

A private conversation, from eleven years ago, taped and released by a member of the Bush Dynasty?

Beyond disgusted.

8 posted on 10/09/2016 4:33:02 AM PDT by grania (I'm Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

-—There are plenty of targets for Trump attacks. Clinton has promised to extend both of President Barack Obama’s historic policy initiatives (as described by the millennial generation’s Henry Kissinger, his aide Ben Rhodes), Obamacare and the Iranian nuclear deal. Neither is popular.-—

Neither is popular? That’s the understatement of the year. They’re ALL a national suicide pact. Period.


9 posted on 10/09/2016 4:36:10 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not so sure about that. I’m just hoping Trump can blow people away tonight with his vision for the country and by highlighting Hillary’s insincerity, criminality, open borders, etc.

He will have to put on the debate of a lifetime and better use his words carefully.


10 posted on 10/09/2016 4:37:54 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Kaslin
Trump needs to come out in debate #2 with guns blazing. Crime family of BJ & Hilda must be exposed of their sordid DEEDS, not just words uttered on a hot mic. Millennials do not know that a sitting president shoved a cigar in vagina of a young female intern during office hours. They do not know of actual rape of Juanita Broddrick by Bill. BJC raped her first, and then HRC attacked her and threatened her. MSM will never talk about it. These vile acts were not just words uttered in privacy. The Clinton acts are serious felonies if common folks committed them.

If Trump fails to bring this up during debate #2 with 100 million watching, I am afraid we will have president Cankles as 45th POTUS.

11 posted on 10/09/2016 4:38:16 AM PDT by entropy12 (GO DONALD J TRUMP! MAGA!!!)
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To: Kaslin

how not to flub debates, Trump needs to say, lets talk about the issues. You certainly have personal issues with your philandering husband and you have made many attempts to bring this into the mud because you have nothing to stand on so lets get started


12 posted on 10/09/2016 4:39:29 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (I)
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To: entropy12

I agree


13 posted on 10/09/2016 4:42:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

YES...Annnnnd with the hot Mic controversy ,this debate will get high numbers like the first debate


14 posted on 10/09/2016 4:44:58 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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To: Kaslin
As Scott Adams wrote, Trump doesn't need to outrun the bear, he just needs to outrun the other camper. In Hillary's case that shouldn't be too difficult since she can hardly walk.

A reality TV star should do well with tonight's debate format. Here's hoping that Hillary had one Hell of a bender last night in celebration of the release of Trump's cat tape, and doesn't.

15 posted on 10/09/2016 4:48:30 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Kaslin

I don’t care if Trump looks “Presidential” in doing it, but if nothing else in tonight’s “debate” he must expose to the entire world the criminal, incompetent, lying, soul-less hack America’s ruling elites have produced in Hillary Clinton.

He has nothing to lose at this point.

Make it so when Hillary ascends to the throne of Washington D.C. in January only the Media and the UniParty will be there to cheer.

The majority of Americans won’t be watching and, knowing that the American Republic is finished, a sizeable minority will be “seceding,” as it were, from the country they once loved.


16 posted on 10/09/2016 4:50:10 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: demkicker
Trump beat 16 other candidates and they were about as crass as they could be. She beat one.

Be real...it's about "We the People" and we're voting Trump.

17 posted on 10/09/2016 4:50:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
The timing of the tape release was botched. It should have been released Monday after a stellar debate performance by Trump.

Now a good debate by Trump will drown it out, or make the media look even more deplorable if they keep harping on it.

18 posted on 10/09/2016 4:53:39 AM PDT by AU72
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To: TTFlyer

You can count on me that I won’t be watching if she wins the election. It will probably be the lowest coverage watched.


19 posted on 10/09/2016 4:56:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: AU72

“The timing of the tape release was botched. It should have been released Monday after a stellar debate performance by Trump.”

Likely, they have other “tapes” in the waiting for release.


20 posted on 10/09/2016 5:11:59 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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