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Warnings of conspiracy stoke anger among Trump faithful
The Boston Globe ^ | October 15, 2016 | Matt Viser and Tracy Jan

Posted on 10/17/2016 11:18:09 AM PDT by EveningStar

... Anger and hostility were the most overwhelming sentiments at a Trump rally in Cincinnati last week, a deep sense of frustration, an us-versus-them mentality, and a belief that they are part of an unstoppable and underestimated movement. Unlike many in the country, however, these hard-core Trump followers do not believe the real estate mogul’s misfortunes are of his own making.

They believe what Trump has told them over and over, that this election is rigged, and if he loses, it will be because of a massive conspiracy to take him down.

At a time when trust in government is at a low point, Trump is actively stoking fears that a core tenet of American democracy is also in peril: that you can trust what happens at the ballot box.

His supporters here said they plan to go to their local precincts to look for illegal immigrants who may attempt to vote. They are worried that Democrats will load up buses of minorities and take them to vote several times in different areas of the city. They’ve heard rumors that boxes of Clinton votes are already waiting somewhere.

And if Trump doesn’t win, some are even openly talking about violent rebellion and assassination, as fantastical and unhinged as that may seem.

“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.” ...

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: thebostonglobe; trump
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The vast majority of Trump supporters that I'm acquainted with are decent and honorable people. They are simply good people who are fed up with the direction the country has taken over the years. They would never condone extremism and violence.

Dan Bowman and others like him are extreme anomalies.

Also, consider the source of the article.

1 posted on 10/17/2016 11:18:09 AM PDT by EveningStar
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Trump’s rise is the first shot in a bloodless Revolution...those who want to enslave us would do well to recognize and obey the will of the people.


2 posted on 10/17/2016 11:22:28 AM PDT by Maverick68 (p)
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Bloodless -— maybe. There could be Arkancides as Democrats start blaming each other for dropping the ball before Donald Trump.


3 posted on 10/17/2016 11:24:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

Pence was wrong yesterday.

No way anyone is gong to accept anything in this election if the side who’s creating all the violence, fraud and vandalism wins. Not happening.


4 posted on 10/17/2016 11:25:16 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Pence does find it hard to get really radical, although at least nominally there’s hard to find another who is as conservative on a whole palette of things.


5 posted on 10/17/2016 11:28:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

It’s rigged by the media.


6 posted on 10/17/2016 11:30:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: EveningStar

Throwing the money changers out of the temple. Anger has a time and a place.


7 posted on 10/17/2016 11:31:01 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: EveningStar

Meanwhile, it seems much more reasonable and newsworthy to talk about Hillary’s crimes and dirty deeds.

For example, the birddogging video just released.


8 posted on 10/17/2016 11:33:08 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: EveningStar
At a time when trust in government is at a low point, Trump is actively stoking fears that a core tenet of American democracy is also in peril: that you can trust what happens at the ballot box.

Ah, so rather than argue the question on its merits, I see the Globe's going with the political equivalent of "If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell."

9 posted on 10/17/2016 11:34:22 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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How can Matt Viser and Tracy Jan be so ignorant as to fail to see the hundreds or thousands of people outside Trump events acting violently, sometimes beating and kicking Trump supporters down on the sidewalk?

How can they miss the fire-bombing of a Republican campaign office?

These parasites search for a guy they represents the worst of us, but ignore the thousands who represent the worst of the anti-Trump folks.

Can they find evidence of us paying people to riot?

We can find evidence of the Left paying their goons to riot.

I hope these two have drivers to get them home.

It’s evident they don’t have the evaluation skills necessary to function in everyday life.


10 posted on 10/17/2016 11:35:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (22 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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There could be Arkancides as Democrats start blaming each other for dropping the ball before Donald Trump.

Well, as long as no humans are harmed, that's OK.

11 posted on 10/17/2016 11:35:28 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Awwwwwwwwww!


12 posted on 10/17/2016 11:36:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

Wiki leaks is doing an excellent job of showing the Clinton corruption and its link to widespread government corruption. Furthermore, the Globe should be on top of breaking news, and if so, then they’re aware of voter fraud being committed, even as this opinion is typed.

Therefore, their boo-hoo article is yet one more attempt to defraud their readers by implying that corruption doesn’t exist.

But..I DO have to be honest with myself regarding Trump’s claim to a rigged election. If Trump looses, he blames a rigged election. If he wins, is the election any less rigged???? or does his winning negate any existing fraud?

I DO believe that fraud exits. That’s been shown over and over, especially recently since government officials/election officials are either unwilling or prevented by law from digging deeper into the situation. Who gets to examine the computer programming on voting machines prior to the elections and what prevents someone from going around to machines with a usb drive to change that programming minutes from the polls opening? People have been seen with usb drives doing exactly that at polling places. Who examined the usb drive before it was inserted into the computers?

We have to trust in the integrity of people...fallen, imperfect, people to carry out the laws of the land. We have to trust that same system to hold their own to an even higher standard than the average citizen is held to because those officials are in a better position to know legal from illegal with regard to the laws they work with. Yet, we can’t trust government to hold them to even the same standard as the average citizen.

We see Generals prosecuted, but not Hillary. We see the head of the FBI colluding with those officials. A former president who meets with his wife’s prosecutor...runs her plane down on the tarmac...just days before a trial? No consequences.

We look at a nation which has been stripped of her power, her military, her income and her uranium sold to a questionable nation, who is now under threat of nuclear war...weakened to such a degree that we can’t defend ourselves, we are broke and they also want to strip the people of basic weaponry too, we’re supposed to TRUST the administration doing that???

The reporter and/or editor is delusional and idealistic. Something needs to wake up the press. Soros isn’t going to do it, that’s for sure.


13 posted on 10/17/2016 11:37:32 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Still Thinking

The very last thing they want to see is a populace stirred up with the realization that “Only if it isn’t close, can’t they cheat.”


14 posted on 10/17/2016 11:38:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

Anger is long overdue. The people had anger at Obamacare and were portrayed as nutjobs. The elite will always belittle us in an effort to shut us up.


15 posted on 10/17/2016 11:40:11 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: dragnet2

I know this probably won’t go over well but let’s face it, Pence is a lot like Dole, McCain in that he is a go along with the elites, a I’m to nice to rock the boat, I’ll lose with class type of guy.


16 posted on 10/17/2016 11:40:30 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: EveningStar
At a time when trust in government is at a low point

Gee, I wonder why that is the case?

17 posted on 10/17/2016 11:45:20 AM PDT by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Vote Trump!)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

This is one of the things that bugs me about “Christians” who aren’t really very much believers. They are all too ready to give up. They see God not as a Source of Love that will bless the right attitude beyond human credulity, but as some kind of indifferent casino master.


18 posted on 10/17/2016 11:49:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“I know this probably won’t go over well but let’s face it, Pence is a lot like Dole, McCain in that he is a go along with the elites, a I’m to nice to rock the boat, I’ll lose with class type of guy.”

Hopefully he’ll learn from Trump on how to toughen up and get more gutsy. He would be learning from the Master.


19 posted on 10/17/2016 11:50:37 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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I tend to agree... that Trump will rub off on Pence, if the team succeeds in garnering a sufficient vote in November to win.


20 posted on 10/17/2016 11:57:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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