Oregon standoff: All defendants found not guilty

Oregon Live (The Portland Oregonian) ^ | 10/27/2016 | Maxine Bernstein

[Jack Black]

Update at 4:10 p.m.: All defendants found not guilty.

[Jack Black]

For those of you still reading this thread, let's close it up with a few unhinged comments from the Oregon Live comments section, for your amusement and contemplation.

jd454695 23 minutes ago
We lose , this gives these TERRORISTS free reign to do anything they want , The People of America lose!!!!! These people are URBAN TERRORISTS and will not stop here, they will be back to do more damage!!!

RoedyGreen 3 hours ago
I can see two explanations for this unexpected verdict.

1. the jury contains sufficient sympathisers. They ignored the law.

2. the guns and general crazy behaviour of the Bundy's terrified the jury. They were afraid they would be killed if they convicted them.

Adam 9 hours ago
@maxneopayne I'm not melting down, though I am depressed that men with guns could come to our state, try to steal our public lands, and get away with it.

This is your loss as much as ours. It's a blow to the rule of law in our nation, and it will just encourage other lunatics to pick up a weapon, cloak themselves in self-serving patriotism, and try to forcibly take from us anything that they think they're owed. And the next time that happens, there's a good chance that they won't have a political agenda with which you happen to agree. Maybe then, you'll realize just how terrible this verdict really was for all of us.

i, Maroon Eye, angel 9 hours ago @Ducksoup
More Federal charges coming down. Many incriminated themselves and others under oath.

GertBelltheposterformerlyknownasNotauntsusan 10 hours ago
So these folks who have been released, Fry, Banta, Cox et all, are they going to become productive citizens? Will Fry go back to sweeping his Daddy's floors, will Banta get a job and keep it? And what will the TrenchWenches and Walmarthas be doing before the next trials?

Guitar Wireless 10 hours ago
You guys joke about it, but those of you without guns need to learn from this. Go buy guns. If you're a pacifist, we tried it your way. This was the result. It will be the same in Nevada. The only way to fight these people is to take up guns against them. The FBI will NOT do it.

i, Maroon Eye, angel 10 hours ago
They will go on thinking they won something until the DOJ hauls them back in after reviewing testimony from this case. Statute of Limitations is a Karmic Bee-otch.

GertBelltheposterformerlyknownasNotauntsusan 10 hours ago
I'm hoping the IRS starts paying attention to them.

T-rumpityMcLOSER 10 hours ago
A sickening miscarriage of justice.

When the next grab-bag of good ol' boy trash kkkicks up their heels, they'll feel even more entitled to do so than this last sorry gaggle of goons. Enjoy.

Of course there were some good guys pointing out the obvious, I'll close with one of those:

Mr Correct 11 hours ago I just can't believe that the 25,000 comments from 1300 different commenters on this story got it exactly wrong. You guys are obviously no good at predicting what the rest of us saw as an inevitable acquittal. You aren't any better at voting. Do us all a favor and start making decisions based more on logic, less on emotion. We'll all be better off.

[itsahoot]

So what you’re saying is, unless they are organized into a real Army, an armed populace is worthless.

You have any evidence to the contrary? Are we stopping the border invasion? Did we revolt over Waco, Ruby Ridge? Do we care that millions of radical islamics are coming here?

Do we care that we have a lawless president? We care more that Trump may have talked about grabbing a Megyn than we care about any of that.

[Ken H]

So your answer is ‘yes’, an armed populace is worthless unless they are organized into a real Army.

[azkathy]

There is an article from the Oregonian regarding an email from Juror #4 who sent them an email following the verdict, explaining how the jury came to the Not Guilty conclusion. I have tried 4 times to copy the link and paste it here but Google closes every time I try.

Can one of you post it? It may have it’s own FR thread already. I will check.

[itsahoot]

So your answer is ‘yes’, an armed populace is worthless unless they are organized into a real Army.

I noticed you just want to say they are with out any evidence to prove your contention. I said they haven't been up until now.

I have a few thousand rounds of ammo, how much do you think the government have?

Did you see any evidence that an armed public prevented 4 US Marshals from beating and dragging Bundy's laywer out in hand cuffs because the Jury voted not guilty? The real power here lies in juries that won't put up with this cr@p anymore.

If an armed citizenry is going to be a force, it is up to elected Sheriffs to organize possies with the blessing of their Governors because their National Guard belongs to the Fed anytime they choose. Sadly Joe Arpio pretty much stands alone.

I see nothing in this society that makes me think the military, FBI, NSA and any other alphabet agency won't fire on Citizens. They did in the Civil war and they did it will about a much zeal as the Muzzies.

[Ken H]

So what do you do when they come for your guns, fight as best you can or roll over?

[itsahoot]

So what do you do when they come for your guns, fight as best you can or roll over?

Best I can but I don' expect to win, and neither should you.

[Ken H]

I believe I will pass on taking advice from someone who is already defeated.

[itsahoot]

I believe I will pass on taking advice from someone who is already defeated.

Ok I am a well armed 78 year old half blind half deaf Vet, exactly what wold you expect me to do if a full squad of trained men show up in the middle of the night and bang down the doors terrorize my grand kids and demand I surrender the weapons I have trained on them because I will hear them coming.

You are and idiot and will get you family killed and lose your weapons in the process. I will fight when the draft is called and not the draft from the Uniparty.

[Ken H]

So you’ll give up your gun and rot in prison. If you think the goons will just leave your family alone and let them get on with their lives, you’re naive.

[itsahoot]

So you’ll give up your gun and rot in prison. If you think the goons will just leave your family alone and let them get on with their lives, you’re naive.

You keep trying to get me to commit to violence and I am going to label you a FBI snitch trying to entrap freepers into calling for violence. I won't call for it in any shape or fashion. However if Hillary loses people should be prepared, at least in the big cities, for violence.

[Ken H]

You keep trying to get me to commit to violence...

Dishonest garbage. Saying you'll defend your home from a hypothetical illegal action is not a call to commit to violence, unless you consider self-defense to be violence.

Fact is, you snarked about a well-armed populace and got called on it.

[itsahoot]

Fact is, you snarked about a well-armed populace and got called on it.

Sure I did. Now run along sonny you probably have a check to cash.