Posted on 11/15/2016 11:37:14 AM PST by nickcarraway
The. Senate wasn't created to represent the population, only the states. Unfortunately in 1913 our Republic blundered by passing the 17th Amendment and removed a portion of our Constitutional Republic. The popular vote to elect Senators effectively removed individual state representation at the Federal level.
Kalifornia is a case in point. With the diverse political climate in Kalifornia if Senators were still appointed by state legislatures it is possible that the conservative portions of Kalifornia could lobby their state representatives to have one conservative senator so their was equal representation of factions. As it is with popular voting for Senators they will send 2 rats every time. The popular vote represents the people. The Senate is supposed to represent the state not the people.
It was an ingenious government created by our founders. We messed it up in 1913. We need to fix it by repealing the 17th Amendment. In doing so we in "flyover country" would be more fairly represented.
The electoral college is the founders protection for all states. All states deserve a voice regardless of size.
President-Elect Donald Trump, when interviewed by Leslie
Stahl, indicated that he CAMPAIGNED under the EXISTING
laws of the land. (You can’t change the RULES after YOU
LOSE!) He indicated that he WOULD HAVE CAMPAIGNED IN A
DIFFERENT MANNER if the popular vote had been the law and
WOULD HAVE STILL WON the election.
Leslie Stahl’s manner with President-Elect TRUMP was quite
disrespectful and rude. He was courteous and his mind was
on more important matters than the MSM. She interrupted
constantly, tried her “gotcha” questions that fell flat as
flitters.
MSM is DEAD to me. (I watched Stahl’s TRUMP interview, but
because I wanted to see and hear him; not MSM’s antics.)
People are claiming this to be an option.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
So a state like PA would turn blue no matter how the people of the state voted. Funny most of states listed are traditional blue states.
Do these people not understand why the forefathers established the electoral college?
This election was a prime example of why the made the electoral college. Take California out of the equation, Trump wins the popular vote by about 1.2 million. California would have canceled out the rest of the nation. The electoral college ensures all states have a say in the presidential election. That is way the forefathers did that. Back when the country was founded, states like PA and NY would have canceled out states like SC and GA.
Study your history Ms Boxer.
Any other time, we’d need a Constutional Amendment to make a change. But, with Ryan and McConnell in charge, ......
just know, i am so firmly in agreement with this prayer that anytime you pray it, there's an echo from my house.
The article did say that if passed, three fourths of the states would have to ratify it within seven years to become an amendment. Read the whole thing.
Boxer needs to bone up on her 7th-grade civics.
It would take two-thirds of both houses of Congress plus 38 state legislatures to get rid of the Electoral College. That’s hardly going to happen.
The only thing that I think might be better would be the system that Maine and Nebraska use, only for all states.
That, and repealing the 17th, would put real power in the people's hands, while simultaneously limiting the effects of voter fraud in "Key Precincts".
Which also is precisely why it will never happen. :-)
Do away of the Electoral College and no election will be won honestly, but by fraud and heavy populate states.
Don
Let’s see how many co-sponsors box of rocks can get before she retires and Harris takes her seat
It's also the only office in the land where the entire country elects you, not just a single state, county, or city.
1970 Chilean Presidential Election: No run off first-past-the-post:
Marxist: Allende: 36.61%
Conservative: Jorge Alessandri: 35.27%
Christian Democratic : 28.11%
Allende took his victory where 64% of the population voted for someone else as a mandate to transform Chile into a Marxist-Leninist state. We all know how that ended.
Since you mentioned civics courses, from the Podesta emails...
From: Bill Ivey
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599
“...And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all
been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire
to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains
strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands
some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven,
demographically-inspired messaging...”
heh heh heh.....good chuckle because its true.
I count myself a blessed woman to have been educated in a time and place where the Constitution was taught. I also taught my children and have instilled it in my grandchildren. Susequently, all of voting age openly vote conservative as do the spouses. It should be that important to all Americans. I am happy that thus far each of the offspring who have married are not only equally yoked in faith but patriotism as well. Can't imagine having a lib spouse. I couldn't do it.
got too serious. Thanks for the chuckle.
D.O.A.
Well, I am with you on this. Pushing for a Convention of States here.
Well stated. Much better than my wording.
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