Posted on 01/28/2017 11:04:52 AM PST by C19fan
GWB was more liberal than conservative. He merits no respect whatsoever. That he was the "better" choice over Gore and Kerry doesn't cut it. On his own merits he failed miserably and a lot of people were very, very foolish to give him their almost totally blind support.
I disagree about No Child Left Behind being a negative. That bill did a lot to undermine public education and now there is much more consensus about school choice, charters, accountability, etc. If we’re finally able to take out the failed public education system, the way No Child Left Behind moved the ball will be a big reason why.
More than one.
No Child Left Behind was based on a Bush Texas educational miracle that never happened, outside of that???
I don’t know what you’re trying to say. My premise is that the bill helped contribute to the eventual demise of public schools, which is ultimately a great thing. Let’s see what Devos can do. She has the right background.
The only reason the Left is APPEARING to respect W is because they think it hurts Trump. If Hillary were President right now, they’d still be trashing everyone else...
“It was quite stable when he left office until Obama just abandoned the place.”
But why did he go after Iraq, when the Saudi’s were the people who financed 911?One answer: He wanted to kill Saddam for trying to assassinate his father. If that’s true,he was o.k. with pi$$ing away trillions of dollars and thousands of precious young servicemen’s lives to settle a score with Saddam.
And FWIW, I sent him money and sat up nights worrying he wouldn’t get elected both times. But sadly, my trust in him was misplaced, because he was a weak president who let a war take both him and our country down.
If we can’t admit that George W. Bush, (who most of us voted for at least once) was a personally decent man what does that say for us?
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That we recognize that he wasn’t a decent man.
That one we agree on. He had me fooled.
Same as it ever was, they did the same to Nixon and Reagan, and then when they passed, they said they really weren’t all that bad.
I get it. When Obama took office, I would have settled for Bill Clinton again.
Clinton was a horny old man who was a crook but I knew Obama was down right dangerous. He despised our country.
“Maybe the main reason why people are so quick to assume that everybody we have a disagreement with is evil or corrupt is to give us license to behave in that way ourselves. I don’t love the guy, but the policies that I disagreed with didn’t necessarily make Bush evil or corrupt. “
It took me the better part of Obama’s eight years to realize that the Booshes are Globalists and that W and his father were not interested in “Making this a Great Country,” but rather working as hard as they could to make it irrelevant and subservient to them and their monied globalist buddies. I saw a comment from a pundit not long ago who said: “the Bushes regard everyone else as “the help”!” So you and I will have to part company over the matter of them being both evil and corrupt.
“There were no great leaders to be had after Reagan. Perhaps, until now. It was all bad choices in the GWB years. “
I guess you could invoke the Pogo comment: “we have met the enemy and he is us!” The truth of the matter the GOPe has been “pi$$ing on our legs and telling us it was raining” for probably most of my adult life. It’s why now the real fear we should have is that the GOPe and their “financiers” will try to pull the rug out from under Trump given the chance. But I think Trump knows they are a bunch of “worthless a$$holes” and so he will deal with them by taking his case directly to the people. Along with fixing the SCOTUS, doing away with all of Obola’s EO’s, replacing Obamacare, he needs to make sure that he completely reorganizes the GOP ( or alternatively, kills it) so like the RATS, it cannot come back any time soon as an effective party run by the globalist elites.
I was saying a few Presidents had their ways of supposedly advancing education in their image.
Common core, the Texas miracle...
I think this will be more like LETS GET THIS DONE.
So much funding, so little results.
Agree with you! One of the biggest mistake was that of toppling Saddam Hussein. Saddam was the fiercely enemy of Iran and for decades maintaining a military threat to Iran ,forced it to stay constrained. Saddam is gone , Iran is free to support terrorism and expand its nuclear power.
You are delusional No Child Left Behind opened the door to Common Core ....it got the feds even more involved than they had been before
The election of Obama was inevitable. The US felt like it needed a black President.
I didn’t, but evidently a lot of people did.
I used to figure that if Kerry had won, he’d have been ineffective and easily beatable, and Obama would not have been the candidate in 2008. Of course, we would then live under the threat of an Obama presidency every four years. He might even be starting his second term right now. At least that’s over and behind us for good now.
Before No Child Left Behind, did you ever think you’d see a Democrat administration support vouchers, charters, merit pay, etc.? It shifted the battle lines. Now the teachers’ union advocates are a minority within a minority.
I don’t think it was inevitable in 2008. Bush got us into a long, expensive, bloody war, and generally refused to defend it, he went along with Dems spending, and poor loan practices to pump up the housing market, which led to the bubble, and crash, which tanked the economy, which is the #1 reason any Democrat who ran would have won. Not to mention the debt, the attempt and failure to modernize social security. Bush’s presidency was a mess.
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