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Here’s what your guacamole — and other groceries — would cost if we had a Mexico border tax
Star Telegram ^ | ELIZABETH KOH

Posted on 01/28/2017 8:37:37 PM PST by SJackson

It was a claim that President Donald Trump repeated on the campaign trail: that he would build a wall and that the Mexicans would pay for it. In his first few days in office, Trump appeared to make good on one portion of that promise, by signing an executive order for the planning and building of that wall to proceed.

But the cost for that wall will temporarily be borne by Americans, Trump said, and Mexico’s government insists it will not pay for the construction on the border. On Thursday, President Donald Trump floated a 20 percent tax on imports from Mexico which suggested that until Trump’s promised reimbursement from the Mexicans materializes, Americans would pay for the border wall with their pocketbooks.

The White House clarified afterwards that Trump’s suggestion was an option rather than an official proposal, but social media users quickly questioned the possible uptick in one particular grocery item: avocados, of which 80 percent come from

America’s southern neighbor. Though the price of the guacamole’s main ingredient varies from market to market, the creamy green fruit usually costs a few dollars. Assuming a $3 cost, a 20 percent tax would increase the price to $3.60.

Takis, a common packaged food snack, would go from $6 to $7.20, the Washington Post reported. Other staples like tomato paste would also see only a slight markup, from about $1.20 to $1.44.

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KEYWORDS: border; guacamole; imports; importtax; strawberries; trump; usnbandit; wall
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To: lodi90
I do not recall the exact details either, but you are to a large extent correct.

The Mexican fruit was not allowed in until relatively recently -- except for certain times of year. That prohibition protected American growers.

We can thank the Chilean imports for breaking that set-up. Or curse them under one's breath sort'a like the Morro growers would.

The deal there is that the Morro fruit would come in late, and so pretty consistently would fetch a good price.

The changes made harvest strategizing difficult. I do not pretend to know the answers. (not enough information on when other harvests are most likely to come in, critical price points, etc.)

101 posted on 01/28/2017 9:38:24 PM PST by BlueDragon (on a 10 dollar horse and a 40 dollar saddle I'm goin' up the trail with them longhorn cattle)
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To: central_va

There was a fire in Fallbrook CA (see I-15 Avocado Highway) about5-6 years ago. 20,000 Avo trees destroy. many not replaced because water pries went up with the drought. Now we have rain but still not totally restored in soCal. This area could produce much more avocados and citrus if it was profitable. Most of what is grown in Mexico can be grown in soCal, especially Imperial Valley and the big valley.


102 posted on 01/28/2017 9:45:48 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: SJackson

Let the Mayonnaise war begin!


103 posted on 01/28/2017 9:47:49 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: BlueLancer
You said "Ca-ca..."

Yeah, but it's actually quite edible. (Venezuelan)

It has hot, garlic, onions, jalapenos, green peppers, cilantro. Lots of flavor. It's a great dip with tortilla chips.

Guacamole tastes like.......nothing.

104 posted on 01/28/2017 9:51:08 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: conservative98
Do you buy Garlic? *That's* the one produce I buy, that makes me *crazy*. Most of the garlic in our USA stores comes from CHINA Even if you shop at Whole Foods. Most of WF is labeled on signs with *country of origin*; for garlic, there is no such signage.

Outside of a farmer's market or online, I don't know where to find it in a supermarket. And I've looked

Tried growing my own the past two summers with no luck. :(

105 posted on 01/28/2017 9:54:22 PM PST by Daffynition ( "The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Falconspeed

Well, once the Wall finally gets built the Peso should devalue about 30%, so we’ll break even.


106 posted on 01/28/2017 9:56:46 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: SJackson

I just bought 10 avocados for $10 at Von’s.
All large size. Haas and Fuerte.


107 posted on 01/28/2017 9:57:22 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: EinNYC

Yes, that rings a bell. The industry there has been growing in the last few decades, if memory serves. I browse a awful lot of info -- can't remember it all, so thank you for the reminder.

Parts of equatorial Africa could maybe get into the act?

However, it can be difficult to import into Europe. Lots of red tape. They can be picky & demanding. The European Union was supposed to streamline things, turn it all into a one-stop-shopping-Bureaucracy as far as import-export regulations were concerned, but often ended up churning out regulations that were (virtually) priced by the ton, with seemingly significant portions of whatever overall benefits there were going to the rules writers in Brussels.

Those people lived in luxury, baby. Sweet. Good work if you could get it --- and all but answerable to no one but a few politicians not empowered to do much more than pitch a bitch (if they lacked leverage to directly twist enough arms). Brussels would keep churning out more and more regulations, accompanied with Euro version of "it's for the children" kind of rhetoric in defense of whatever they chose was "best".

I'm under the impression that such as I've just vaguely outlined is part of why the English voted Brexit.

108 posted on 01/28/2017 9:58:04 PM PST by BlueDragon (on a 10 dollar horse and a 40 dollar saddle I'm goin' up the trail with them longhorn cattle)
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To: EinNYC
Stew Leonard's makes their own guacamole. IIRC, there's a Stew's somewhere in NYC or Riverdale.

Wild blackberries grow on my property, so do blueberries. And these berries, in grocery stores in Ct. are locally grown.

109 posted on 01/28/2017 9:58:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SJackson

The reason 80% of the avocados come from Mexico is because the feds opened the door to cheap imports and shut off the water to California, driving avocado farms out of business. Califoria being where 95% of US avocado production came from before 2014.

However, with the drought over, and the feds hopefully off the backs of farmers, we can expect avocado production to increase in California and we can all have cheap guacamole again, tax or no.


110 posted on 01/28/2017 9:59:08 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you." President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I stopped going to “ authentic Mexican “restaurants. They serve beef with lots of muscle and gristle.

I’m not into real third world cuisine.


111 posted on 01/28/2017 9:59:44 PM PST by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

What grain, fruit or vegetable cannot be grown in America?
I can’t think of one.

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A long time ago, I read that no coffee is grown in the U.S.

Even that may be different now.


112 posted on 01/28/2017 10:00:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Jan 20, 2017 Rich white man evicts black family from public housing)
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To: bigtoona

"I don’t buy any produce from Mexico because they allow use of human POO for fertilizer."



That's where the previous president (ex-president no-more-bama) got the idea about those horrendous shovel-ready jobs he used to talk about...



113 posted on 01/28/2017 10:00:45 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Graybeard58

Hawaii grows a lot of coffee.


114 posted on 01/28/2017 10:01:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SJackson

I don’t buy Mexican produce because I love my health too much.


115 posted on 01/28/2017 10:04:01 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: SJackson

I wish the trump administration would star a go fund page. The wall could be paid for in less than a week. The people want it. I don’t care if we pay for it, I just want it going up now.


116 posted on 01/28/2017 10:05:15 PM PST by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name,)
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To: Duchess47; 1_Rain_Drop

“What grain, fruit or vegetable cannot be grown in America?
I can’t think of one.”

Bananas, but they don’t come from Mexico anyway. I’ve got a banana tree growing in my greenhouse, anxious to see how it does.

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Bananas are grown in Hawaii. Perhaps you meant “continential U.S.”?


117 posted on 01/28/2017 10:07:44 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Jan 20, 2017 Rich white man evicts black family from public housing)
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To: FlyFisher; bigtuna
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

Illegal immigration is estimated to cost the U.S. $113 Billion a year. Most of that, $84 billion is paid at the state and local levels.

California pays out almost $22 Billion to illegals each year! Their state budget deficit is $14 billion.

That's a lot of guacamole!

118 posted on 01/28/2017 10:09:40 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Davy Crocket

A lot of the produce that we get from Mexico is grown by Mennonite and Mormon colonies that moved down there for the cheaper land.


119 posted on 01/28/2017 10:14:13 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: Zirondelle

Mexican food is vile anyway. - always looks post-digested or regurgitated.

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Open a can of refried beans. Looks and smells just like Alpo.


120 posted on 01/28/2017 10:15:16 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Jan 20, 2017 Rich white man evicts black family from public housing)
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