LATEST: Flynn Apologized to Pence Over Phone Call With Russian Ambassador

Fox News ^ | Feb. 13, 2017

[Carl Vehse]

ETL @11, nikos1121 @28,

The Zero Hedge article refers to "sanctions imposed that day [Dec. 29] by the outgoing Obama administration, which were levied in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election."

The Zero Hedge article also notes:

"While the transcripts of the conversations don’t show Mr. Flynn made any sort of promise to lift the sanctions once Mr. Trump took office, they show Flynn making more general comments about relations between the two countries improving under Mr. Trump, people familiar with them said."

[catnipman]

Yet ANOTHER fake news story based on “anonymous sources”.

All this BS started with ANOTHER fake news story by WaPo based on, you guessed it, “anonymous sources”.

The media is now nothing more than a means for distributing rumors, dressed up to look like “news” by labeling the rumor mongers as “anonymous sources”.

[ETL]

I trust Flynn way more than Pence.

Of course you would, Putin butt kisser that you are.

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Mike Pence on the subject of Putin and Russia:

(from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016)

“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts. That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”

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Also from the Oct 5, 2016 first VP debate...

QUIJANO (Moderator): I want to turn now to Syria. Two hundred fifty thousand people, 100,000 of them children, are under siege in Aleppo, Syria. Bunker buster bombs, cluster munitions, and incendiary weapons are being dropped on them by Russian and Syrian militaries. Does the U.S. have a responsibility to protect civilians and prevent mass casualties on this scale, Governor Pence?

PENCE: The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens and over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton’s top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset, the Russians reset. After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea.

And the small and bullying leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America — the greatest nation on Earth — just withdraws from talks about a cease-fire while Vladimir Putin puts a missile defense system in Syria while he marshals the forces and begins — look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership.

It begins by rebuilding our military. And the Russians and the Chinese have been making enormous investments in the military. We have the smallest Navy since 1916. We have the lowest number of troops since the end of the Second World War. We’ve got to work with Congress, and Donald Trump will, to rebuild our military and project American strength in the world.

But about Aleppo and about Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do right now is immediately establish safe zones, so that families and vulnerable families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners, real time, right now, to make that happen.

And secondly, I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength. And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.

There’s a broad range of other things that we ought to do, as well. We ought to deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland which Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on out of not wanting to offend the Russians back in 2009.

QUIJANO: Governor, your two minutes are up.

PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html

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And...

PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say we’re not having talks anymore.

To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to — we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harm’s way.

[ETL]

Trump’s U.N. Envoy, Nikki Haley, Condemns Russia’s ‘Aggressive Actions’ in Ukraine

By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Feb 2, 2017

UNITED NATIONS — Nikki R. Haley, the new American ambassador to the United Nations, condemned Russia on Thursday for its recent “aggressive actions” in eastern Ukraine.

“We do want to better our relations with Russia,” Ms. Haley said during her first remarks to an open briefing of the United Nations Security Council. “However, the dire situation in eastern Ukraine is one that demands clear and strong condemnation of Russian actions.”

She made it clear that American sanctions imposed after Russia’s annexation of Crimea would remain in place.

During her Senate confirmation hearing last month, Ms. Haley also expressed support for continuing the sanctions and accused Russia of committing war crimes in the Syrian conflict. But her strong criticism of the government of President Vladimir V. Putin put her at odds with President Trump, who has expressed a desire for warmer relations with the Kremlin. ...’

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/world/europe/nikki-haley-trump-ukraine-russia-putin.html?_r=0

[ETL]

Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time'

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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Trump says NATO is obsolete but still ‘very important to me’

January 16, 2017

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said NATO was obsolete because it had not defended against terror attacks, but that the military alliance was still very important to him, The Times of London reported.

“I took such heat, when I said NATO was obsolete,” Trump told the newspaper in an interview. “It’s obsolete because it wasn’t taking care of terror. I took a lot of heat for two days. And then they started saying Trump is right.”

Trump added that many NATO members were not paying their fair share for U.S. protection.

“A lot of these countries aren’t paying what they’re supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States,” Trump said. “With that being said, NATO is very important to me. There’s five countries that are paying what they’re supposed to. Five. It’s not much.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-nato-obsolete-still-very-important-004548554—finance.html?ref=gs

[varon]

That’s it and the media is having a conniption fit about it. There is nothing there in other words.

Note to MSM.....butt out, this is our party and you're not invited......

[nikos1121]

I sure hope Trump supports Flynn on this.

[faucetman]

“there are three rules when you work with Donald Trump. Don’t lie to him, don’t steal from him and don’t embarrass him.”

Flynn broke TWO of those. Just sayin.

I hope Trump keeps him though, just to thwart the media scum.

[Carl Vehse]

I sure hope Trump supports Flynn on this

It doesn't seem that Flynn did anything illegal. But the fifth-column leftist media (who covered for Hillary's FUBARs) will hype it up as a secret deal with the Russkies.

The real issue may be what Flynn told Trump in private and whether it turned out to be not true.

[Ms Mable]

I’m going to hold my comments on this story, until I hear from better sources...
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My thoughts as well. But really, can it possibly be worse than Hillary’s maid printing out Top Secret documents for her.

[ETL]

It doesn't seem that Flynn did anything illegal. But the fifth-column leftist media (who covered for Hillary's FUBARs) will hype it up as a secret deal with the Russkies.

Why are you pushing that BS, when you ought to know that it was Obama and Hillary who were in bed with the Russians.

From Obama's handing Putin everything he wanted on missile defense and nukes, including the Iran nuke deal that Putin loves and boasts to have played a major role in formulating, to the Uranium One deal, where the Russians ended up owning at least 20% of our uranium production! In fact Russia just a few weeks ago, I think it was, transferred a bunch of that uranium to Iran!

[ETL]

...Ok, sorry. I should haven’t said that you were pushing it. But you could have at least brought it to readers’ attention that it was Obama and the Clintons who were “in business” with Russia, and who gave away the store to them in terms of defense and national security.

[ETL]

Make that, “...Ok, sorry. I shouldn’t have said...”

[sanjuanbob]

You mean Stuart Smalley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY

[STJPII]

Exactly. Listening to Chris Plante show today and he read from a Washington Post Article last month where the FBI already cleared him. Anyone have a link to that article? Thanks in advance.

[ETL]

From The Wall Street Journal, via DailyBeast

Feb 13, 2017

Report: Michael Flynn May Be Fired Over Russia Calls

National Security Adviser Mike Flynn may be in danger of losing his job, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

The administration is reportedly weighing whether to dismiss Flynn over his controversial contacts with Russian officials and the publicity surrounding it. Flynn has allegedly apologized to President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, who are said to have disagreed over the appropriate response to the situation.

“He’s apologized to everyone,” an official told the Journal.

On Dec. 29, Flynn spoke by phone with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and initially denied that he discussed new sanctions imposed by the Obama administration.

Flynn later admitted that the conversation included mention of the sanctions.

Transcripts of his phone calls corroborate that Flynn and Kislyak indeed discussed the matter.

It reportedly also became clear that Flynn has had more than one phone call on the issue, despite the White House initially denying those claims.

Trump has told close advisers that although the controversy is “unwelcome,” he is going to “look into” the matter further before making a decision.

Trump has also said he wants to “keep moving forward” with Flynn.

Trump adviser Steve Bannon reportedly had dinner with Flynn over the weekend and has decided to keep him in his current post but is said to “be ready” to fire him if it becomes necessary.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/02/13/flynn-post-in-peril-white-house.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

[ETL]

“The meetings came after an explosive report from The Washington Post, stating that Flynn “privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials.”

Vice President Mike Pence had said in an interview last month that Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak did not discuss the sanctions by the Obama administration.

The Wall Street Journal reported this morning that Flynn’s position within the administration is “tenuous.” The ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee called for Flynn to resign on Friday. ...”

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/13/flynn-apologized-pence-not-disclosing-details-russia-call

[virgil]

Find out who they are and charge them with espionage. Lock em up and forget about them.

[John S Mosby]

It is all they have left. Al freakin’ Franken ( a true moron).

The joke is that Franken is running for prez on a ticket with Jill Stein.....

The FrankenStein ticket— how appropriate, the monster that the decaying demo-rat party is becoming, as we watch desperate people propped up like “weekend at Bernies” and their walls come tumbling down.

Want to watch more gnashing of teeth— See Morning Joe and his main pump Mika both whining and moaning about WH Advisor Miller’s appearance in defence of various WH policies, notably the empty “legal” decision of the 9th Circuit which is unconstitutional on it’s face. They are scared of such legally supported confidence in the Executive’s Constitutional powers (not the obamaumao’s power abuse, which truly was unconstitutional but had a “he’s black” pass).

[John S Mosby]

FBI cleared him.... thanks for the post. But of course, that would be the “Comey” FBI to the current media loons. The same one that is pursuing the Clinton Foundation and spelling doom for all of their grifting circle of washington friends of the Uniparty. They are really going all out against Trump-Pence. This is going to keep on happening and they must be shut down, by the administration and by patriots.