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A Nation of Immigrants -- Only If They Assimilate
Townhall.com ^ | February 28, 2017 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/28/2017 4:16:28 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/28/2017 4:16:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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It’s a combination—no immigration and starting with a population of Japanese people.


2 posted on 02/28/2017 4:19:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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I’d like to correct the author just by title alone. We are NOT a nation of immigrants! We are a nation of citizens.


3 posted on 02/28/2017 4:25:14 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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Donald J. Trunp became President just in the nick of time.


4 posted on 02/28/2017 4:27:13 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Jarhead9297

Indeed—I hate that phrase!


5 posted on 02/28/2017 4:27:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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“””If you want to understand the immigration crisis, just know that because the left has undone the second choice, it has made the first choice — Japan’s choice — look tenable to many for the first time in American history.”””


The Leftist Multicultural Propaganda has led us to the point where the only solution is to restrict immigration.


6 posted on 02/28/2017 4:33:37 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Jarhead9297
I’d like to correct the author just by title alone. We are NOT a nation of immigrants! We are a nation of citizens.

Which is exactly what the title indicated - and the gist of the story was used to back up....from the middle of the article:

America was never just "a nation of immigrants." America was always a nation of immigrants who sought to become -- or at least were taught by American public schools and by the general American culture to become -- Americans.

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7 posted on 02/28/2017 4:36:33 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Biggirl
He sure did, but President Trump is not against immigration. He is against illegal immigration and rightly so.

Like it or not the United States is a nation of immigrants

8 posted on 02/28/2017 4:38:23 AM PST by Kaslin ( In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving- Donald Trump)
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To: trebb

I don’t like in any way the phrase period. It is a phrase often used and should never be used. When used no matter the context it’s used as a war cry that everyone belongs here. I agree with everything the writer states however I’d prefer we stop using the phrase altogether and stick to always using we are a nation of citizens


9 posted on 02/28/2017 4:39:25 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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You are wrong!!!

The United States is a Nation of Immigrants. Those that come or came here illegally are not immigrants, they are invaders.

10 posted on 02/28/2017 4:42:37 AM PST by Kaslin ( In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving- Donald Trump)
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I encounter immigrants who are inter U.S. tourists , everyday . I ask them where they are from and they tell you which U.S. city that currently live in . You have to ring it out of them , where they actually came from . Are they ashamed? What gets me is when I encounter immigrant people who live here that use their native language and not English . Especially speaking to their kids in the non-English language . Hello? This is America , we speak ENGLISH here . If you want to speak India , or Telagu , go back there .... It doesn’t help the kids at all. They are in America and what too be considered Americans but I will tell you what ; if you go around openly babbling in some other language , you will NEVER be American , nor seen as an American by any true Americans . They are self isolating themselves from the country they claim to want to be part of and also alienating their children from ever being real Americans . If they/you miss your home culture / language / traditions : Go back there .


11 posted on 02/28/2017 4:45:32 AM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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There are a few hundred thousand professionals that came here legitimately to work, moved here with there Japanese wife/husband to continue or start a new career, got the visas, learned Japanese and assimilated. There are plenty of low life’s from North Africa and China that work with the yakuza, but since 10 years ago or so they are easily being rounded up and kicked out. Basically all long term residents and permanent residents are upstanding, well behaved, gainfullly employed people that chose to move here and enjoy it.


12 posted on 02/28/2017 4:48:14 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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But LEGAL immigrants.


13 posted on 02/28/2017 4:50:26 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Kaslin

Melting pot

Not “diversity” Tower of Babel


14 posted on 02/28/2017 4:50:36 AM PST by zzwhale
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My parents were immigrants. That means they came to the US legally. Applied for emigration. My mother was denied emigration for 3 years due to being blind in one eye (it was 1948). They had sponsors, a medical report, a TB xray. No social services for 5 years. Just about every adult I knew in Boston growing up was an immigrant.

There is a world of difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal alien. The liberals do not see the difference. The Democrats see future voters. The Republicans and the corporations that support them see low cost labor and more consumers. The only losers are the American people (citizens and legal immigrants).


15 posted on 02/28/2017 4:55:45 AM PST by seamusnh
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To: Kaslin

Immigrants until granted citizenship (if legally here are H1b Green card) are immigrants. If not legally here are invaders. Once fully legalized they are citizens. The language the left like to use in order to qualify any illegal invader is the oft used argument that we are a nation of immigrants which is 100% wrong. This has been the language used by the left to justify invasion and soften American’s stances on illegal aliens.

We are a NATION of citizens and I stand by that statement


16 posted on 02/28/2017 5:17:56 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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I also am an immigrant. I was brought here by my husband on September 25, 1966 when he was transferred from Germany back to Fort Campbell, Ky. He came to Germany with his Company from Fort Knox during the Berlin Crisis. We met and married in 1962 in my hometown. He was stationed about 10-12 miles from my hometown.

I became a citizen on June 12, 1977

17 posted on 02/28/2017 5:21:25 AM PST by Kaslin ( In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving- Donald Trump)
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To: 9YearLurker
It’s a combination—no immigration and starting with a population of Japanese people.

Right... how are we going to import enough Japanese people to make a difference? Besides, most of them seem happy enough in Japan.

18 posted on 02/28/2017 5:41:51 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I’m not surprised that Mr. Prager can find statistics to support his contention that heterogeneity increases crime: numbers are fungible like that. However, one ought to be raising the same cries of, “Correlation does not equal causation!” that one would lift if one disagreed with the premise.

Violent crime is lowest, Mr. Prager observes, in several states with a very substantial majority of white residents. Is there a state with a concentration of other races for comparison on this point? No, there is not. However, there is Puerto Rico, where the vast majority of the population is Hispanic (not a race, but we’ll run with it), immigration is practically nil, and the violent crime rate is high. So that’s one data point against Mr. Prager’s premise. Other countries could be mentioned as well to contest the causation.

What other factors might correlate with low violent crime rates? What about age? Most violent crime is committed by men between 18 and 30 years old. Are the mostly-white populations of low-crime states also mostly old? Why, yes they are. Is the Japanese population of Japan mostly old? Why, yes it is.

I’m disappointed in Dennis Prager. He’s smarter than this, or I thought he was. Either I was wrong, or he’s just tossing cheap talking points to the uncritical reader, which is tacky.


19 posted on 02/28/2017 5:42:14 AM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Jarhead9297

I listened to Anne Coulter, on the View, argue that she came from settlers. At first I thought she was loopy, then I realized she was saying the same thing you are( of which I agree ) but differently.


20 posted on 02/28/2017 5:42:26 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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