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House Republicans release long-awaited ObamaCare replacement bill
Townhall.com ^ | March 6, 2017

Posted on 03/06/2017 4:34:20 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Navin Johnson

It let’s stand the Internal Revenue Code mandate, but reduces the penalties to $0.


41 posted on 03/06/2017 5:30:52 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

Which is useless since the penalty can always be implemented again.

That will probably be a deal breaker for most conservative Republicans, as it should be.


42 posted on 03/06/2017 5:35:05 PM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: RushingWater

First they ought to repeal. Then work on replace


43 posted on 03/06/2017 5:35:50 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kaslin

They should have only given Republicans copies of it and told Democrats that they’d have to vote for it before they could see what’s in it.


44 posted on 03/06/2017 5:36:26 PM PST by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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To: cornelis

The third sentence says it would get rid of taxes and mandates.


45 posted on 03/06/2017 5:36:59 PM PST by grania
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To: funfan

Trump killed the mandate with an EO his 2nd or 3rd day in office.


46 posted on 03/06/2017 5:38:38 PM PST by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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To: grania

I’m sorry, I don’t know which third sentence of what. Are you reading the actual bill?


47 posted on 03/06/2017 5:40:37 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Navin Johnson

123 pages instead of over 2,000... I like it better already.

...

We don’t have to pass it to see what’s in it.


48 posted on 03/06/2017 5:41:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Navin Johnson

Enforced by the IRS?


49 posted on 03/06/2017 5:42:43 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Nifster

I wish they had taken Paul’s recommendations. They wouldn’t even allow him in the meeting. Shameful.


50 posted on 03/06/2017 5:44:11 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: cornelis

I’m reading the third sentence of this post. But now I’ve read something else that makes me wonder if they’re playing dictionary and changing “tax” and “mandate” to “penalty”.


51 posted on 03/06/2017 5:46:13 PM PST by grania
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To: Moonman62

Yep, the problem is that what is in it needs plenty of help.

If Congress just repealed the entire Obamacare law they probably could have done a better job with a whole new plan in less than 123 pages.


52 posted on 03/06/2017 5:47:04 PM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: grania

You have to read the bill, specifically page 83 and 84. The language there doesn’t repeal anything. It revises the Internal Revenue Code. It’s a tweak. It leaves the mandate and penalty language in place. It reduces the penalty to $0. That’s page 83 and 84 of the bill.


53 posted on 03/06/2017 5:49:35 PM PST by cornelis
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To: mylife

Stop listening to Chuckie Schumer


54 posted on 03/06/2017 5:49:48 PM PST by Kaslin ( In AmeriHe;ca, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving- Donald Trump)
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To: Navin Johnson

“The mandate is still in effect”

That section you read pertained to someone buying a policy outside of enrollment periods. In that case, a policy premium may be applied for the balance of the year. I presume this would be for someone picking up insurance when they get sick.

The repeal of the mandate is here (I think):

SEC.05 INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

(a) IN GENERAL
Section 5000A(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended—

(1) in paragraph (2)(B)(iii), by striking ‘‘2.5 percent’’ and inserting ‘‘Zero percent’’, and

(2) in paragraph (3)
(A) by striking ‘‘$695’’ in subparagraph (A) and inserting ‘‘$0’’, and
(B) by striking subparagraph (D).

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE
The amendments made by this section shall apply to months beginning after December 31, 2015.

SEC. 06. EMPLOYER MANDATE.
(a) IN GENERAL

(1) Paragraph (1) of section 4980H(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting ‘‘($0 in the case of months beginning after December 31, 2015)’’ after ‘‘$2,000’’.

(2) Paragraph (1) of section 4980H(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting ‘‘($0 in the case of months beginning after December 31, 2015)’’ after ‘‘$3,000’’.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE
The amendments made by this section shall apply to months beginning after December 31, 2015.


55 posted on 03/06/2017 5:51:11 PM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1

That doesn’t remove the mandate. That reduces the penalty to $0.


56 posted on 03/06/2017 5:52:14 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

So, if the language for the mandate and penalty are in place, they can sneak it up a few dollars a year? That would be unacceptable.


57 posted on 03/06/2017 5:53:06 PM PST by grania
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To: TigersEye

which can be restored if a dem wins the whitehouse...the MANDATE HAS TO BE REPEALED!!!....they’ll never get that again..it was a fluke election in 2008 and they still had a hard time getting that thru....all the other stuff can be messed around with later. Gotta get rid of the mandate.


58 posted on 03/06/2017 5:54:24 PM PST by basalt
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To: grania

I’m writing my state rep.


59 posted on 03/06/2017 5:56:29 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

As I recollect the original commie care bill, there was no section that said “Mandate - Everyone will have insurance.”

However, there was a section describing penalties for not having insurance.

And it was that penalty that all referred to as “the mandate”.


60 posted on 03/06/2017 6:01:36 PM PST by fruser1
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