so the mexkins took it from the Indians and we took it from them, is what they are saying? you can take anything you want in this world, question is, are you strong enough to keep it... screw-em
Posted on 04/08/2017 6:31:47 AM PDT by Dana1960
The whole Western Coastal claimed for the British Crown back in 1471 By his Lordship Sir Francis Drake.
Mexico’s problem isn’t the land they sold us after getting their ass kicked.
Mexico’s governing bodies are corrupt and incompetent. Mafia like crime organizations. They have failed to drive prosperity. Advance education, etc. Even tourism carries risk.
If Mexico somehow had more land, all they would be doing with it is furthering the size of their failed country.
Actually, the US didn’t declare war until Mexican troops crossed the border, overran an Army outpost and marched on the fort at Brownsville. What happened after that is all on Mexico.
Also, what would happen to Mexico if we gave a fifth of their PEOPLE back?
Let them try. :)
so the mexkins took it from the Indians and we took it from them, is what they are saying? you can take anything you want in this world, question is, are you strong enough to keep it... screw-em
Mexico only had it for 20 years. The United States have had it since for will over 150 years. Besides, if it were still owned by Mexico it would be a third world hole that most of Mexico is today.
The United States and its citizens created and nurtured and sustained the old Mexico territory and made it the success story that it is today.
Draw a line from San Fran to San Antonio and make it look like the rest of Mexico. They should beg us to be the 51st state, but instead they want to destroy 5 of ours. World gone mad.
...which leads to a question: How much of the historic prosperity of the United States of America stems from the development of territories originally inhabited by Mexicans and ripped away from Mexico through an invasion and a war of territorial conquest?Ignoring the inflammatory tone, the answer is "Quite a bit".
The unasked question that must then be raised is "What has Mexico done with the part we didn't 'rip away'"?
The answer to that is essentially "Nothing".
Even the Disney movie is more accurate than thos NYT garbage.
If the beanheads want it that bad, come and try to take it and see what happens.
The Mexican leftists are not even pretending they aren’t an invasion force any longer. They want their land back, as if what the U.S. built of it is anything like the almost unpopulated, almost entirely undeveloped desert wasteland that it was when we got it. The tiny numbers of Mexicans that were on that land when we got it were lucky that they and their descendants got to live in an advanced first-world country, instead of a crime-ridden, corrupt, impoverished one that everyone seems to be trying to escape from. The Mexicans never seem to mention either that that territory was owned by Spain for centuries and by Mexico for only a decade or two. It’s been U.S. land far, far longer than the Mexican nation ever had it.
So, what’s next? Are Britain, France, Spain, Russia, Canada, and the defunct Hawaiian Kingdom going to demand “their land” in the U.S. back too? Is Poland going to give Prussia back to Germany? Is Italy going to hand back South Tyrol to Austria? Do the African states get divided up by various tribes in the way they were in the early 1800s (which in some instances is very different from now)? Or do the European powers get to reclaim their lost colonies circa 1900? Panama used to be a part of Colombia. Does Colombia get to reclaim it? The map changes all the time. The idea the world should try to go back to 1847 is crazy, and it has zero bearing on literally millions of Mexicans breaking our laws over the last few decades—unless this anti-American leftist’s argument is that anyone who wants to invade to reclaim “their land” should be allowed.
We took it fair and square. The treaty is clear and final. We’re not giving it back.
Anyway, “Mexico” was barely a country then, the lands in question were remnants of the failing Spanish Empire. Mexico did not exert authority north of Rio Grande and barely had any citizens there. It was very much contested land in the decades after the Spanish Empire began to crumble.
A big reason we need The Wall is to make it crystal clear to all these socialist libtards where the permanent border is. We in the USA are NOT going to give in to an illegal invasion by hordes of infiltrators.
That’s great!
total bs
[What exactly is keeping the NYT in business?]
Carlos Slim?
Historically, Mexico’s claim to the land to its north was derivative of Spain’s claim to Mexico. The problem with that claim was that neither Spain nor Mexico was able to make its writ run there. The country was too wild, and the natives too intransigent. The US had the logistical strength to overcome those issues, as Mexico did not. Consequently, the US conquest was - if not legally, more or less historically inevitably the organizing power which took over what is now the US Southwest. The imbalance of power was too great for any other outcome to be realistically expected.James K. Polk became president to establish US authority over the Southwest, and he also negotiated the border with Canada as we know it today. Thus, the shape of the lower 48 US as we grew up knowing it was established during the Polk Administration, 1845-1849.
Coincidentally, Samuel Morse demonstrated his Baltimore-Washington telegraph in 1844, and it was used by a politician in Washington to decline the VP nomination of his party convention in Baltimore that year. The Associated Press was operating by 1850, and it has been dominant in our political discourse ever since.
The Army hasn’t forgotten. His campaign is one of the key campaigns we studied at School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS)
Scott was the key to success during the War of 1812 (victor vs the British at Chippewa) the Mexican War and also laid out the basic strategy for defeating the Confederacy at the beginning of the Civil War. Nobody else has been as consequential for as long a period as he was.
And what was Mexico’s claim on Texas, California, and so forth, to the north; and, to Yucatan and Central America to the south?
The Pope drew a line on a map and gave much of the New World to Spain, and Spain organized much of it as “Mexico.” In the following map, notice that central America is not colored although the words indicate that, at independence it was part of Mexico. (Coloring maps so as to color history.)
So, by what authority that we should recognize did the Pope “give” so much of the New World to Spain?
Yep!
Mexico won independence from Spain in 1821. Texas won independence from Mexico in 1836.
So, over 180 years ago, Texas was part of Mexico for a grand total of 15 years.
Get over it.
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