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United passenger dragged off flight identified as doctor with criminal past
Syracuse.com ^ | April 11 2017

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:46:11 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag

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To: PhilDragoo

Why is it with all the interviews that have gone on with passengers who were witnesses, not one of them has stated he left then came back on? I don’t buy the guy “snuck” back on or even returned to the cabin of the airplane after leaving.


61 posted on 04/11/2017 4:51:43 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: zaxtres

“I don’t buy the guy “snuck” back on or even returned to the cabin of the airplane after leaving.”
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He got back on/in the plane, there’s video of that. I don’t know if he “snuck” back or what. It would be stupid to *allow* a bloodied and disoriented passenger back on. But then again, United hasn’t displayed much intelligence in all this.


62 posted on 04/11/2017 4:57:30 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Herman Ball

“I guess the Capt Should just have refused to take off.”
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He shouldn’t, if he had no idea of what was going on in his plane.
Although waiting until someone is bloodied and dragged off before you are allowed to take off just might be one procedure United might want to tweak a bit going forward.


63 posted on 04/11/2017 5:04:29 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

Therein lies the problem in America right down to our children. No one has authority to screw with me. THINK ABOUT IT and look at all these college kids and even grammar school kids.


64 posted on 04/11/2017 5:12:46 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: LouieFisk

Therein lies the problem in America right down to our children. No one has authority to screw with me. THINK ABOUT IT and look at all these college kids and even grammar school kids.


65 posted on 04/11/2017 5:12:47 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: LouieFisk

Therein lies the problem in America right down to our children. No one has authority to screw with me. THINK ABOUT IT and look at all these college kids and even grammar school kids.


66 posted on 04/11/2017 5:13:01 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: Herman Ball

“Therein lies the problem in America right down to our children. No one has authority to screw with me. THINK ABOUT IT and look at all these college kids and even grammar school kids.”
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You got apples v. oranges there.
It’s perfectly right not to allow an entity to whom you’ve paid for a service to abuse you, even more so when they leave you literally bloodied. To me, that’s pretty dang American.


67 posted on 04/11/2017 5:20:36 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: confederatecarpetbag

So you’re saying it’s ok for an airline to arbitrarily eject you after you’ve been checked, boarded and seated?
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Just passing on what I’ve been told, which is that the airlines can, under certain circumstances, require randomly selected passengers who are already boarded and seated to relinquish their boarding passes and deplane. If true, it’s something I was not aware of either.


68 posted on 04/11/2017 6:52:09 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: klb99

Little surprised at all the whining on FR....this moron is the only one to blame for this whole soap opera. He should have had the sense and the class to get up and leave quietly. People are bumped all the time. Put on your big boy pants, grow up, and suck it up.
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You’ve been reading my mind. That’s exactly how I see it.


69 posted on 04/11/2017 6:58:23 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
People are bumped all the time. Put on your big boy pants, grow up, and suck it up.

Have you ever been bumped off a flight AFTER being seated? Have you ever seen that done to anyone else? I haven't.

70 posted on 04/11/2017 7:00:40 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: pabianice

You can’t have four passengers stand for the length of the flight.
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And I feel sure that FAA regulations prohibit standing passengers, i.e., passengers with no assigned seat.


71 posted on 04/11/2017 7:01:45 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: PJBankard

They also should have shot whomever it was that shot the cellphone video of the incident. That video harmed the airline, and that person deserved to be executed on the spot for doing that.


72 posted on 04/11/2017 7:08:48 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: missnry

This guy was just playing martyr.
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My thoughts exactly. Taking advantage of what he saw as an opportunity to sue the airline. LOCK HIM UP!


73 posted on 04/11/2017 7:10:09 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: Cementjungle

People are bumped all the time. Put on your big boy pants, grow up, and suck it up.

Have you ever been bumped off a flight AFTER being seated? Have you ever seen that done to anyone else?
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No, and no. But I also didn’t post the statements you’re referring to here.


74 posted on 04/11/2017 7:23:46 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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If it were a matter of “Let’s rough up the Asian-looking guy” then United has a really big problem.

I saw an interview of a Chinatown spokesman on the news just about saying it was racism, saying they pick on Chinese because they think they are submissive. Yup, it's going there.

75 posted on 04/11/2017 7:47:35 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: PhilDragoo
Passenger was approached a half dozen times civilly, then snuck back on after being escorted off the first time.

You got it all wrong, read the articles before posting.

After he was dragged off unconscious, the airport security agents placed him on the floor outside of the plane, while they went to find a stretcher to place him on. Evidently, not a single one of the three agents stayed with the passenger. He awoke in a dazed condition, and walked back on the plane. He did not sneak on board. He had suffered a head trauma and was dazed, walked back aboard saying "I have to go home.". This was a failure on the part of the airport security.

76 posted on 04/11/2017 7:53:04 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: mulligan

“Hard to believe so many think the airline was at fault.”
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Tell that to Oscar:

“I want you to know that we take full responsibility and we will work to make it right.”
- United CEO Oscar Munoz


77 posted on 04/11/2017 7:59:55 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Actually, the fine print is on the passenger's side in this case.

In United's Contract of carriage, they discuss the terms for a "Denied Boarding" situation (due to overbooking):

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25

In the "Refusal of Service" section they discuss the conditions under which they can deny service and remove you from the plane. This situation isn't covered.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21

So, the overbooking situation needs to be handled before they allow passengers onto the plane. Once boarded, they cannot remove a passenger without cause (disorderly conduct, emergency, etc.).

78 posted on 04/11/2017 8:46:37 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Actually, the fine print is on the passenger’s side in this case.

In United’s Contract of carriage, they discuss the terms for a “Denied Boarding” situation (due to overbooking):
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I had no knowledge of any of this info. Thanks for sharing it.


79 posted on 04/11/2017 8:51:54 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

The man was Vietnamese. He was flying on the cheapest pass called a Zpass. Cheap seat goes first. This was Republic Airlines commuter flight bearing Uniteds name. The FAA rules specify who gets bumped. By the way, Republic Airways also serve Frontier Airlines, the bottom feeder of airlines. This was a Russian attempt to screw a great American airline{sarc}.


80 posted on 04/12/2017 1:25:14 AM PDT by DISCO
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