Posted on 04/29/2017 7:19:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
That is, other than harm caused by the alphabet agencies to VW — and to us?
That can be quantified.
Multiple felony indictments, $25 billion — so far — in fines, “fixes” and buybacks. Hundreds of thousands of near-new and actually new perfectly good cars simply thrown away in a disgusting orgy of gratuitous waste.
The complete elimination of all diesel-powered engines from VW’s U.S. model lineup.
The needless burning of oceans of gasoline instead.
Well, he DID vastly enrich himself. I guess that makes HIM happy.
I have 2 12 yr old TDIs. They should make AlGore happy as they grt great mileage using only EGR and a catalytic converter.
The newer TDIs have all sorts of additional exhaust chemical processing plants that need to be periodically regenerated, hence the issues. The gas engined vehicles produce way more CO2.
Where do I go to get 2x my current fuel economy like Hussein suggested I should?
I have thought from the beginning this was a bad deal.
All VW engineering did was find out what the rules were and how they were verified, then find a way to pass with the best possible performance. Sounds like good engineering to me! If they wanted to instill a different test, that’s OK. But they passed - well done, I say.
He missed the part where the US consumer really doesn’t want diesels and the reason diesels have made it big in Europe is because of the higher tax on gasoline.
“All VW engineering did was find out what the rules were and how they were verified, then find a way to pass with the best possible performance.”
No. They passed with the worst performance. The software recognized the rules of the test and detuned the engine to meet emissions. Out on the road, the software said ‘to heck’ with the emissions.
When the time comes to put leftists on trial for their many crimes, there is no doubt that Stuart Johnson should be on the list of people prosecuted.
RE: He missed the part where the US consumer really doesn’t want diesels
Then let it die a natural FREE MARKET DEATH. Why do we need the government to tell us not to buy them?
IMHO, manufacturers — Mercedes-Benz, for instance — are pulling diesels out of their lineups, not because they “cheated” but because the compliance costs have become prohibitive and also because the manufactured stink emanating from the VW Thing has tainted diesel engines generally.
Like coal, the US government made it their mission to kill diesels, not the free market.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
TurboDiesels rock and are all over full size pickups. Some car buyers/users concur.
“You say that like it’s a bad thing.”
My post was entirely neutral.
“Some car buyers/users concur.”
Trucks or cars. Most car drivers don not concur that diesels ‘rock’ in cars.
Cerebrate and embrace diversity and Science, like Thermodynamics.
Diesel is far superior, unless you like paying more.
At least for trucks, I can’t comment on the cars too much.
YMMV....
Or maybe the US consumer was and never was enthralled with diesel engines.
Maybe if we did like Europe and charged an extra dollar per gallon for gasoline they would catch on.
“At least for trucks, I can’t comment on the cars too much.”
We are talking about cars.
RE: Or maybe the US consumer was and never was enthralled with diesel engines.
Here’s what the author wrote:
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VWs like the Golf and Beetle and Jetta sedan with the TDI diesel engine were capable of better than 50 MPG on the highway. I have driven all of them and know it from first-hand experience.
The best any of them can do with a gas-burning engine is mid-high 30s.
Instead of incredibly fuel-efficient but fraction of a percent per car higher oxides of nitrogen emissions — the “cheating” at issue — and this only under certain conditions, such as wide-open throttle diesel engines, we get gas engines that burn 20 percent — whole numbers! — more fuel and produce whole numbers more of things like carbon dioxide, which in this case, the “environmentalists” are strikingly not “concerned” about.
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We could have known how the American consumer would respond had the government not interfered. Now, all we can do is speculate as to what might have been.
Ok, I did have two. One was a 99 VW Jetta diesel.
The other was a 2005 VW TDI.
Both far outperformed their gasoline counterparts.
Lots of torque, and great fuel mileage, the kind of mileage that makes those hybrids drool heh.
“Diesel is far superior, unless you like paying more.”
A little research of small and medium truck fleets shows the diesel to be a bad economic decision.
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