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Companies need workers — but people keep getting high
Washington Post ^ | 05/19/2017 | By Danielle Paquette

Posted on 05/19/2017 7:26:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: oldtech
The lawmakers that have allowed use of these drugs have automatically made many people potentially unemployable.

Nonsense - the legality of pot doesn't force anyone to use it, any more than the illegality of pot stopped many people from using it.

41 posted on 05/19/2017 10:48:14 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Positive tests for the drug reached 2 percent last year, compared with 1.6 percent in 2012.”

So 98% of US workers tested are clean. That goes against the “American workers are scum” narrative being pushed in the article. No doubt the vast majority of those positives were for marijuana and not harder drugs.

We must remember that any article critical of US workers in a globalist publication like the WP is an attempt to bolster arguments for increasing immigration above the already very high levels we have now.


42 posted on 05/19/2017 1:41:48 PM PDT by WatchungEagle
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To: DesertRhino

Well if they have any other problems they can stay the hell out of my life, they can hopefully find a compassionate snowflake friendly employer. The lines are drawn, no democrats as well.


43 posted on 05/19/2017 5:39:51 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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To: central_va

Why should companies have to up the ante for normal people?

Dopers are dopes.


44 posted on 05/19/2017 6:38:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: wild74

It actually takes more than a few hours to regain normal cognitive thinking, especially if a person dopes out regularly. If they dope out regularly for some time, they may never regain all brain/thought functioning.


45 posted on 05/19/2017 6:39:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: zeugma

The only false positive I’ve heard of - and close to someone who has had to do multiple drug tests for work etc - is eating poppyseed bagels can make a false positive for opiates.


46 posted on 05/19/2017 6:41:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: DesertRhino

Insurance requires drug testing for some positions like EMT and firefighters, for instance.


47 posted on 05/19/2017 6:42:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah
Why should companies have to up the ante for normal people?

If an employer wants quality non drug using people to work for them then they will have to pay more or stop complaining. It is called supply and demand and it applies to labor also.

48 posted on 05/19/2017 6:44:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow. From 4% to 4.2%? Oh, my!

So over 95% of the people they send for tests come back clean.

But drug use is the reason they are having trouble hiring workers.

Uh-huh.

Perhaps they should pull the other one, it has bells on it.

49 posted on 05/19/2017 6:45:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: mykroar

Std? Explain please


50 posted on 05/19/2017 8:55:54 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: wild74

They can regulate/ tax alcohol


51 posted on 05/19/2017 8:59:02 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: NobleFree

Yeah, but it’s the law! And the get they a break on third insurance premiums.


52 posted on 05/20/2017 7:41:18 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: oldtech

I’m all for drug testing the congress, senate, and all their staffs! They should be held to the same standards they impose on us


53 posted on 05/20/2017 7:43:48 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: SoothingDave

“Why is it OK for a person to get drunk on his free time, but not to use marijuana? Not being stoned *at work* is the same as not showing up to work drunk.”

Because the employer doesn’t want to hire people who use marijuana in their free time, but doesn’t care about alcohol use in their free time.

Why is that not OK? You are free to use anything you want, and the employer is free to not hire you if you use whatever they deem is unacceptable to them.

It’s the part where you take personal responsibility for your decisions, and stop whining when someone else refuses to coddle you just because you choose something for yourself that they do not wish in their employees.


54 posted on 05/20/2017 7:56:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: SeekAndFind

Cannabis tests are unfair. If the truck drivers are allowed to have a few beers the night before, they need to be allowed to vape a little weed. Alcohol leaves the body quickly and they don’t test drunk the next day. The cannabis test will show a + for months.


55 posted on 05/20/2017 7:58:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe companies should realize that just because somebody gets high doesn’t mean they’ll be high on the job. Really how many of these HR people drink? And how many don’t drink on the job? People actually can moderate their own behavior.


56 posted on 05/20/2017 8:02:04 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: South Hawthorne

I have a friend that vapes weed and she tested herself with those tests. She didn’t smoke and kept testing. It took over two months to stop testing positive. How is it fair? The worker is always to party with alcohol on the weekend but if he has one hit of pot, he can’t work? Crazy. The marijuana test is the only one that is patently unfair.


57 posted on 05/20/2017 8:02:36 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: discostu

There should be a premium paid for drug free responsible workers. Unfortunately companies are unwilling to pay that premium. So they cry bitch and moan to WAPO instead.


58 posted on 05/20/2017 8:04:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yaelle

No. It’s because alcohol burns out of the system quickly but the pot chemicals are stored in the fat and stay in your system much longer.

If I hire someone I have a right to know what’s in their system.


59 posted on 05/20/2017 8:08:03 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: central_va

Of course then you run into the problem of how much is the job actually worth? You can’t pay somebody more than they add to the bottom line. That’s where it becomes a decision, what’s more important to you employees that can pass drug test or cheap warm bodies on the floor.


60 posted on 05/20/2017 8:13:08 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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