Posted on 05/25/2017 1:47:25 PM PDT by PROCON
Full Title: WH Budget: Claiming Child Care Tax Credit, Earned Income Tax Credit Now Require a Social Security Number
(CNSNews.com) – The president’s budget requires that those receiving the child care tax credit and the earned income tax credit now must have a Social Security number to claim those tax credits.
“We talk about how to prioritize spending and how to look at programs that work and don't work. The childcare tax credit and the earned income tax credit. One of our proposals is that we are going to require you to have a Social Security number now to collect those,” White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said Monday during an off-camera briefing.
“Why is that? Because I can ask you for your money, I think, in good faith and good conscience and say, look, I need to take some of your tax money and give it to this family who deserves the childcare tax credit, but I can't do it to give the earned income tax credit, which is designed to help folks who work, to give it to somebody who is in the country and working illegally," he said.
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Amazing that liberals and their judges have actually advocated for a system to out-breed and subplant their 3rd world wonders over Americans all these years.
Insane but true. No law, just internal IRS procedure
This got quite a bit of notoriety under Odunga.
Her regime was in-your-face with this stuff.
The fed-gov allows persons (i.e. illegals) to use ITIN numbers and also claim various tax credits like the EITC and the ChildCare credits.
Requiring an actual SSN for filer to claim those credits will kick them off those programs.
No one person should get EITC. As long as they know they’ll get more back than they paid in they’ll never care about how much taxes anyone pays. People paying taxes are a source of income to them.
Yep - more winning.
Why wasn’t this in the original bill passed in1975 during the Ford administration? Because it was supposed to be a TEMPORARY payment to offset an increase in Social Security taxes! During the last 42 years, hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars have been spent on fraud in this program, and illegal aliens will now have to list their stolen SS numbers to mail their fraudulent payments to “nephews and neices” in Mexico.
The IRS defended its interpretation of the tax code, which states that illegal immigrants who pay no taxes are eligible for the tax credits.
“None of my children have a Social Security number”
When were they born? How will they file taxes or get financial accounts?
Now, run the database on driver’s licenses and the voter rolls as a cross-check.
Pay a bounty for identifying the dead-beats and scammers.
The problem with the child care tax credit imo, is that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to address child care issues.
This means that, unless patriots support Trump in peacefully “forcing” corrupt Congress to surrender state powers that the corrept feds have stolen from the states back to the states, then some future WH administration can always work in cahoots with Congress to reduce or take away the child care tax credit to raise unconstitutional federal taxes.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Regarding the earned income credit, patriots also need to support Trump in working with the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments to the Constitution.
Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!
Remember in November ’18 !
Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.
Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.
In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.
Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.
While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.
Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed in this post.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
This is all an exercise is shifting the blame. SS numbers have always been required on the tax forms for both these credits. Can’t get the credit unless you fill out the form with ss numbers. Anyone not providing the number would have the form returned. Unless they are criminals and the IRS lets them skate. Just like the IRS sending thousands of refunds to the same address in some shithole in Africa. Then they claim they were scammed out of $Millions. BS. What normal thinking person(s) would send any money to a non US Citizen without checking the bona fides?
I believe the Tax FILER has to have a SS number, not the Children.
Of course the obvious question being, why wasn’t this required in the first place?
I thought a Tax ID number could be used instead of an SS number.
.... Isn’t a Social Security Number required anyways when filing a tax return?
If they have a birth certificate then they are already in a database. And if they have no SSN and no Birth Certificate... then you have screwed them for life.
Way past time for this.
Illegal aliens have been bleeding us dry with fraudulent use of these credits.
Each child must have a ss number and list same. If the IRS lets the illegals do this without ss numbers they are guilty of fraud.
Until they claim your children may be illegal not being in the system and they deport them.
Thanks.
I love the idea of Tax Refunds to people who pay NO Taxes.
It’s even better knowing the FRAUD is epic.
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