Posted on 06/12/2017 6:26:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Saturday “not everyone is college material” while urging for workforce development courses to be made available at technical colleges.
“Not everyone is college material,” Conway told host Jeanine Pirro on Fox’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine.” “Not everyone has to graduate from a four year college with a mountain of debt and very few prospects.”
Conway pointed to a trip President Trump and his daughter and special counselor Ivanka Trump will be making to Wisconsin for ‘Workforce Development Week.’ There, the president will visit a technical college along with Gov. Scott Walker (R) and Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta.
“They’ll be going there to talk at a technical college and really see what’s going on there and get some best practices as Ivanka’s been doing for these roundtables and these listening sessions,” Conway told Pirro.
“This involvement in workforce development means that if people want a vocational educational — technical educational — skills certificate they should have access to that,” she added.
Conway said skills-certificate programs that make people "employable" need to be valued in the U.S.
“People are saying, ‘Look, if you are in a skills-certificate program, you can graduate and be employable — welders, carpenters, plumbers, hair dressers.' We need to value that. We need to value that in our country and Ivanka Trump and her father will be out there doing that," Conway said.
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The battle between technical-trade-votech and junior-community-4 year college has been going on since the 1970s and probably long before that.
In the 1970s community college development moved into high gear. Most cities of any size developed community college systems. The idea was that localized community colleges could provide a basis for those planning a 4-year degree as well as those desiring technical training.
Of course, a lot of the decision-making had to do with the social influence of how students saw themselves. Basically, PC was being introduced. There was the perception of a negative connotation for those choosing vocational education over regular college.
In the mid 1960s it was typical for universities to have ‘flunk-out’ courses designed to weed out incoming freshmen who really did not belong in a university. Western Civilization, Freshman English, College Algebra and Biology were typically known as ‘flunk-out’ courses. Incoming freshmen classes of 800 were reduced to about 200 after 4 years. That was by design.
The best thing that could happen to all, both college educated and non-college educated would be to seal the border, halt immigration, halt all h-1b and other work visas and let the free domestic market set wages. Probably wages would be much higher than they are today.
As prosperity kick in birth rates would go up.
If any skill, intelligence or socially redeeming human characteristic was involved in “college material”, why do so many in congress seem to have a degree?
Good for him. I hope he enjoys his job.
Mine actually got a job in his field already. When he was four, he told my wife he wanted to work at NASA and build rockets. He works at NASA for a contractor and does command and control of a satellite.
His job is sort of an internship, but they have him till he graduates and I assume will hire him full time if they like him. The job includes benefits. He just got his first education reimbursement check last Friday.
“...what kind of “college material” does one need to major in “gender studies”?”
I would suggest that “gender studies” isn’t even college material.
I was wondering if this would be picked up for maximal exploit by the MSM. Just The Hill for now but we will see. I was hoping since it was the weekend it would get buried in the doldrums of the weekend. I cringed when I heard her say it and noted she quickly added the part about some not wanting to be saddled with debt also, before Judge Janine had a chance to react (although I don’t think she would have pounced on that like some MSM lackey would have). She’s lucky she didn’t say that someplace like CBS or MSNBC; she would have been excoriated. But now The Hill is trying to resurrect it from the weekend news hole.
It’s clear listening to the interview she misspoke when she used the phrase “not all are college material”. She meant it as she then clarified, that simply some don’t want to be saddled with debt and know that their talents lie elsewhere. There’s no shame in trade work or other work that doesn’t take a college degree to do, but unfortunately our society as all but stigmatized such people and work.
Hopefully just The Hill will be the only ones talking about this today. This doesn’t need to be added to the mountain of crap that gets slung at the administration daily intended only to distract from a conservative agenda not to actually serve any common good or knowledge.
We shall see. Depends how slow a news day it is today I guess.
That alone will make you much more employable and your skills better. Most legitimate employers who need good employees and pay better wages require drug tests.
I am being truthful here. If you ever get a chance to talk with (especially) someone in broadcast media—radio or tv—on a local level, your beber will be stuned at their ignorance of so many topics.
Vey series.
She’s right.
My daughter’s best friend quickly determined that college was not for her. She dropped out and enrolled in a welding class. She is doing extremely well.
Consider what "college material means these days.
Dumb enough to sit through hours of mindless indoctrination and not realize it.
Unless one is in a technical field, such as engineering, science or medicine, dumb enough to waste 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars for nothing and be in debt.
Dumb enough to not figure out what the debt mess will be before getting into it.
Dumb enough to listen to the "guidance" fools in high schools who are completely out of touch with reality.
Dumb enough to not look at the employment possibilities and incomes of graduates who have worthless degrees, such as women's studies, etc.
Since it appears that one of the qualifications to enter college for many non technical degrees is to be a completely out of touch with reality idiot, shouldn't it be an affront for many to be considered "college material"?
The key word is “Licensed”. Many licensed electricians never pick up a tool. They just “sign off” work as being up to code.
I completely agree with your post.
Bring back building trades and such to high schools.
Heck, if they’d just bring back homemaking so kids could learn how to grocery shop and cook an egg so they don’t have to eat out and blow their budget.
This place in Boston has been educating for over 100 years.
Bachelors Degrees,Associate Degrees,and Certificates.
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I know of several young twenty-somethings who have dropped out during their senior year and are flipping burgers. All that money down the drain. All for nothing.
Disappointed it took 13 posts.
I don’t have a problem with “college material.” Some kids aren’t “mechanical material.”
That used to be common knowledge. Those who were not college material were steered towards shop classes in high school, and vocational schools after high school. That system worked for over 100 years, and we should return to that system.
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