Posted on 06/15/2017 12:50:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
This Fight Club stuff has nothing to do with anything.
I guess you’re being humorous.
>>No.
Yes. The RNA cited in the quotation was ALL isolated from Tetrahymena:
“From 2 Q of Tetrahymena, 0.5 ig (3.7 pmoles) of
pure IVS RNA was routinely isolated.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC320658/pdf/nar00378-0064.pdf
>>they then synthesized RNA of the same sequence
Please cite the text from the methodology which documents the synthesis process.
You know how to use Copy and Paste, don’t you?
>>but atomic precursors makes no sense in this context.
Fundamental Atomic elements ring any bells?
Those are the observable taxonomic precursors of molecules.
Once again you play semantic games sans being able or willing to answer the question honestly. But, I'll rephrase:
Has Dr. Cech (or anyone else) manufactured, from unliving atomic or molecular components, RNA which, after having been manufactured, autonomously produces exact copies of itself from unliving atomic or molecular components - as required to demonstrate the hypothetical process of evolutionary abiogenesis?
>>This Fight Club stuff has nothing to do with anything.
Au contraire — It succinctly demonstrates your knowledge of real-world splicing is incomplete.
If anyone believed these numbers and math you’ve shown; the state LOTTERIES would go out of business!
We have mammals that can fly and mammals that cannot walk.
Caan't we leave the angels to dance on their own pinheads for a while and get back to the BIG picture?
Exact copies would be able to produce other LIVING copies.
I seem to recall the historic nature of the worshipers of Created Things is to howl their pride 24x7 in the context of such an accomplishment but...
https://www.google.com/#tbm=nws&q=Artificial+Living+RNA+Synthesized
{ crickets crickets crickets }
>>Living things do not need reproduce exact copies and don’t.
Does a species need to produce copies that are exact enough to replicate the replication process selected for the species?
Not very competitive if it can't.
“This step still remains unverified to science as of this writing.”
http://evolutionfaq.com/faq/how-could-dna-have-evolved
Kinda sums the situation up.
All this self-worshiping STEMucation - and they can’t yet produce a single living molecule out of non-living materials.
Hmm.
Looks like the evolutionary abiogenesis model needs more splicing from top to bottom!
“Au contraire — It succinctly demonstrates your knowledge of real-world splicing is incomplete.”
You’d need to explain this.
“Caan’t we leave the angels to dance on their own pinheads for a while and get back to the BIG picture?”
Sounds good, what’s the “BIG picture”?
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Why, I was just strolling through a junk yard the other day when a wind kicked up and assembled a Boing 787 out of the trash, that was then brought aloft by that same breeze!
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FreeRepublic’s Spell/posting function is itself an excellent html utility!
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>>IE plants and animals.
Which came first, the heterotroph or the autotroph?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=heterotrophs+and+autotrophs
Romans 1 New Living Translation (NLT)20 , x For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
>>You’d need to explain this.
Not to anyone who’s seen the frames of whatever it was that Tyler Durden spliced into those family films — thus demonstrably contradicting your assertion that “Splicing film does not add a frame.”
Splicing certainly CAN add frames, or bases, or genes, or code... into whatever it is that’s being spliced.
;-/
True. Never saw it or read the book.
they aren’t numbers I’ve thrown out0- they are numbers arrived at by most major mathematicians of the world- there was a symposium of mathematicians in the 70’s i believe that concluded the same thing- Demski is also the premier mathematician today who has established that the odds are so far from the realm of possibility that there isn’t even a slight chance tat it could happen
At least the lottery is winnable- the odds are nowhere near as bad as evolution’s probability
it doesn’t convert rich text to html though as far as I know? When i copy a website that uses colored words, and numbers like 10 to the 100’th power or something, or use symbols- the site i linked to automatically puts the correct html tags in -just makes it quicker to post without having to put in all the tags yourself
you two are talking above my head about splicing, but I’ll attempt a question here-
how often has it been demonstrated that evolution added non species specific coding/information via splicing during mutations/mistakes to allow a species to move beyond it’s own kind?
Which is it? “Can add” code? Or “Does routinely add code”?
Remember also, we’re talking that it would have to happen billions of times as species evolved from mere chemicals- if it were so common, surely there would be ample proof of it happening in nature? not only that, but each species has several microbiological layers of defense to protect it against foreign code- or added code at best- at worst- the species dies from added info or is sickened-
the point i guess is that just because it can be done doesn’t mean it was done, billions of times in the past during some evolutionary event- and the lack of evidence is another strong nail in the coffin, in addition to the mathematical biological, chemical and thermodynamic impossibilities associated with the TOE-
just the mathematical impossibility alone should be enough to shut down the discussion- in one of my posts, it points out that the TOE is always having to grasp at thin air to prop itself up- such as stating “Given enough time, evolution could have overcome such and such” but as the post stated- we see that no, there is nowhere enough time to overcome these problems for even a scant few issues to ‘work themselves out’- so the argument that “Because it’s not absolute zero means that it ‘could have happened’ at some point’ isn’t a valid argument
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