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This NYC high school has a big grade-fixing problem
NY Post ^ | July 1, 2017 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 07/02/2017 10:34:01 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Covenantor

I disagree; the NEA and AFT leadership are the primary reasons many blacks are breeding at all. The “cash-for-kids” programs are pushed by the teachers’ unions political arm (the Democratic Party) to ensure “clients” for teachers. If they produce welfare bastards to fill schools, they are rewarded with a life of leisure. Of course, the teachers could care less what happens to the children afterwards. Now the teachers are determined to fill the schools with Hispanic kids instead, for the same reason; they are deliberately darkening, not ethnically cleansing, this country.


41 posted on 07/03/2017 5:40:54 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Pass/Fail records have to do with future school funding. When the graduate levels, due to poor grades begins to show, the possibility of defunding and/or closing the schools surfaces.

Now we can’t have that, can we? Thus the new rules: “Create more graduates, save the schools (our jobs)”. Forget that those graduates have to function in the real world.


42 posted on 07/03/2017 5:44:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: kearnyirish2

The longer one teaches, the more like they will be like you said.

My Bride is getting the near the end of her rope. The administration doesn’t want the kids educate, the parent doesn’t (note, parent), and the child is so far behind by the time they reach high school they can’t catch up.

For every kid she can help succeed, there are five who don’t want to


43 posted on 07/03/2017 5:44:39 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: redgolum

My wife knows a gaggle of young teachers, and she’s shocked at how they speak of their students (absolute contempt). These women have decided they’d rather “play work” than actually work, and have little to offer the private sector; they will stay on until they retire (decades from now), and couldn’t care less what becomes of their uneducated “students”.


44 posted on 07/03/2017 5:47:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes, they have a big grade-fixing problem, but they would have a much, much bigger problem if they were honest.


45 posted on 07/03/2017 5:49:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: DaveA37

The school funding itself isn’t a big issue with pass/fail records; taxpayers want teacher pay (and tenure itself) impacted by results as well - and the unions will NEVER allow it. When towns like mine in NJ run out of money, they cut people who aren’t protected by tenure, retaining the most expensive, least effective teachers as a result (those who are “retired on the job”).


46 posted on 07/03/2017 5:50:02 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I won't apologize for it either.

I first heard the term Affirmative Action in college in 73. I was appalled that a proven method of rewarding merit was being tossed out.

Yet, I was caught up in the same game, getting a baccalaureate as best I could to qualify for the position in my agency I wanted, a position that required a degree, any degree. They didn't even look at the GPA, just the diploma

Years later, as I had reached the higher levels in my craft, I sat back and watched as extremely well qualified co-workers were denied promotions. These positions were eventually filled by marginally qualified individuals that went on to dumb down the entire organization.

Now we have "in your face" racism at every opportunity because every decision is questioned as having a racial motive as its basis.

I am all for every person getting a shot and opportunity, but they each need to show the competitive edge in their pursuit as it brings quality to the surface.

47 posted on 07/03/2017 5:51:38 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (Pass the Ketchup - We got Trump Now)
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To: Covenantor
1965, my HS graduation year

Same year for me.

I took pride in my HS diploma. Both my folks were smart and succeeded with just their HS diploma. Then my younger, retarded sister was passed through 4 years of high school, "earning" a degree from the same high school. She can not write a complete sentence. She can not complete simple arithmetic, but there is no asterisk or other qualification on her diploma. Mine means nothing now. as it proves or establishes nothing except maybe marginal attendance.

48 posted on 07/03/2017 6:00:07 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (Pass the Ketchup - We got Trump Now)
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To: redgolum
"My moral code would not allow me to do that." As a teacher, I deal with this a lot. The system requires you to become part of a big lie that it is perpetrating on the world. I liken it to the novella, Heart of Darkness, where the main character is plunged into the corrupting influences of the imperialist enterprises of Europe. Here is a favorite quote that I am often reminded of:

“You know I hate, detest, and can't bear a lie, not because I am straighter than the rest of us, but simply because it appalls me. There is a taint of death, a flavour of mortality in lies - which is exactly what I hate and detest in the world - what I want to forget.”

I spend a part of my time trying to appeal to my students' common sense that they may understand the lie being pulled over their eyes that public education represents and that they might begin to take their education as a serious and personal responsibility (also that they might consider things from a spiritual, rather than a material perspective). In this way, I hope to set my classroom apart from what is a damnable system and create an environment where education can actually occur.

I'm not about to delude myself into thinking I make many converts, but I draw satisfaction from knowing that I've tried to make a difference (in a world gone mad).

49 posted on 07/03/2017 6:05:28 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: ETL

The system is called Black Privilege


50 posted on 07/03/2017 6:07:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Dustoff45

In my experience these “tokens” provide a lot of job security for the white guys that are allowed to work; in the end, companies need competent workers and if having these “preferred minorities” draw paychecks to stave off lawyers is a new cost of doing business then so be it.

I would never mentor a token (and many don’t want to actually learn and work), but as long as I’m paid I’m OK. The lack of opportunity for a qualified person in indefensible, but I’ve learned that when a true token is hired it is an area, that area isn’t important to the company - it isn’t a real job, but just making the company “look like America”. Where real jobs are involved, the token always has a qualified person doing the heavy lifting around them - the real qualified worker.


51 posted on 07/03/2017 6:14:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Dustoff45

In 1969 after serving for years in the USAF I applied for a technical job with the Federal government in Washington DC. I passed the exams and interviews and Wasperton confident I would get the job. When called back in for my final interview I was told that due to affirmative action laws I was not qualified. My interviewer told me that I had aced the exams and the mental tests. I asked about the veterans preference. She, the interviewer, told me straight out, “I wish you were a black female with a Spanish surname as that would tick three boxes and I’d hire you on the spot. Still hoping that I might qualify I said does it count that I am 25% native American and therefore considered full-blooded? She told that unfortunately that native Americans were not covered by the affirmative action law. I never applied for another government job. I did well enough in private industry to retire at the age of 52. I am now 71 and want for nothing. I live the good life and am glad that I didn’t end up in the civil service as I would never attained what I have today.


52 posted on 07/03/2017 7:00:50 AM PDT by .44 Special
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To: Alberta's Child
I’m wondering what the point of this kind of charade is in a place like New York. To me, a high school diploma in NYC doesn’t mean anything unless it is a state Regents diploma — which means the person with the diploma has passed a series of state exams to demonstrate competency in a bunch of subjects regardless of what grades are shown on a report card.

The point is that administrators get a bonus of thousands of dollars for having good stats, which include high passing grade stats and low "troublesome student" stats (wouldn't want parents of prospective students to shy away from Ghetto Thug High, would we?). They could care less about the future of the "graduates" they turn out who are functional illiterates and can't do even the simplest math. They can't reason their way out of a wet paper bag, answers A, B, C, or D not hovering above real-life problems. They just want to move 'em on out like cattle. It is a total farce that they claim to be interested in the kids' welfare or education. How could they be, when they are pointedly harassing the veteran teachers out of the system by giving them unsatisfactory ratings based on fabricated observations and bringing them up on absolutely bogus charges based on students trying to get some "get-back" for having been told to put their cell phones away or pay attention or any other basic piece of classroom discipline? The administrators also change grades behind the teachers' backs if the teacher doesn't play along with this farce. It is a morass of total corruption ironically labeled "Education" and was ever a source of absolute frustration to those educators like myself who were sincere about wanting kids to learn.

53 posted on 07/03/2017 7:34:31 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
future president of CNN...
54 posted on 07/03/2017 8:06:38 AM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: kearnyirish2
In my younger days I was surprised to learn that people that speak ghetto write ghetto as well;

Ask them to write in cursive, or more diplomatically, "long hand".

Some years back, the liberals were pushing to allow "ghetto speak" as just another dialect, and graduate 'em anyway. (California, where else?)

55 posted on 07/03/2017 11:35:25 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Now for the rest of the story. These folks all vote Democrat.


56 posted on 07/03/2017 12:18:30 PM PDT by okie 54
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To: ronnie raygun

“And we wonder why we have these idiots in high places to deal with today, conyers, maxine waters”

Once it’s understood that that result was a step in the end game plan to start with, plus the strategy of getting the very same students to hate the institutions that would be hiring them because of administrators’ instilled guilt, government mandates, and legal actions, one does not wonder.

One could have placed a safe bet on it.


57 posted on 07/03/2017 12:46:07 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: organicchemist

“Happened once to a Late colleague of mine, though the circumstances were different. When pushed to award an undeserved grade he replied: “You are my supervisor. I will certainly comply as soon as I receive the order in writing and signed.” Silence ensued.”

An excellent response by your late colleague.

In institutions where 90% of the faculty are part-time “at will” instructors eaking out a living as “freeway fliers,” patching together several part time teaching job to pay the rent, that choice of the high route is an even bigger choice. I wish I could say that was my reason. As I think back on the situation, I think that not only cowardice, but fear of crossing an affirmative action dean who reported to higher up affirmative action administrators, was probably the cause.


58 posted on 07/03/2017 12:56:25 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Now that the details of that event decades ago are further percolating upward, I remember that I knew what would come down the pike if I have the student an “F,” and had tried to preempt the reaction I knew would raise by failing the student by giving her a “D.” She complained to the minority dean about the grade. That’s when the pressure to change the grade came. I actually don’t remember whether at the end of the day it was I or the dean himself who changed her grade to a “C.”


59 posted on 07/03/2017 1:09:41 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Oatka

Oh, it was worse than that; even when they would PRINT, they could barely spell.


60 posted on 07/03/2017 1:34:35 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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