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Waqf: We have lost control over the Temple Mount
Arutz Sheva ^ | 16/7/17 | Dalit Halevi

Posted on 07/16/2017 1:52:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: PIF

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>> “Fake mosque for a fake religion.” <<

Correctamundo!

Islam is a political conquest agenda, not a faith of any kind.
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61 posted on 07/18/2017 3:33:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Really? there have been only two temples destroyed, Solomons was the first, and it was long before Judaism was created by the Pharisees.

Judaism existed long before the Pharisees. Your position is analogous to saying that there was no Christianity before the Great Schism
62 posted on 07/18/2017 6:22:07 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Bobalu

Precisely.


63 posted on 07/18/2017 6:47:03 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: editor-surveyor
No.

But that is ok, you believe any fairy tale you want to.

64 posted on 07/18/2017 9:20:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: crz; editor-surveyor

You might want to consider rereading Matthew 24 (Mark 13, Luke 21) as it clearly states that the buildings were to be thrown down but no mention of the wall around them being razed is recorded.


65 posted on 07/18/2017 10:04:07 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

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Fairy tales are all at your end.


66 posted on 07/19/2017 3:08:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rmlew

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Your confusion stems from assuming that Judaism and Biblical Torah based worship are related.

They are not.

Judaism is all man made, by the Pharisees. They reject Torah and declare that they have the power to change it.

They do not. Their Takanot and Ma’assim are all from the adversary.
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67 posted on 07/19/2017 3:13:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Interpreting the Torah and Traditions is not rejecting the Torah. Orthodox Jews do not reject the Torah.
And for the record, non-Pharisaic traditions of Judaism exist among Ethiopians and Karaites (modern Saducees).


68 posted on 07/19/2017 5:38:40 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

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Torah is to be read, not “interpreted.”

Karaism is not Judaism.

Karaites hold to the scriptures; Jews follow the twisted ideas of men.

Ethiopians have a strange mix of Phariseeism and Roman catholicism. (IOW, two forms of Nicolaitanism)

The word is the only thing from Yehova.
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69 posted on 07/19/2017 7:28:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Eleutheria5

WAQF!?!?

Good grief.

Everyone knows a “Q” must be followed by a “U” (well, maybe except for “millenials”)

So it’s spelled wackoff.


70 posted on 07/19/2017 7:45:02 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Not in Arabic, but your point is still valid. He’s a regular WANQR.


71 posted on 07/20/2017 12:33:15 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Not in Arabic

The Arabs have their own alphabet and spelling rules. The islamic spelling of "waqf" is the handiwork of some self-annointed, pointy-headed intellectual, linguistics expert (liberal ivory tower dweller)

Other corrections include: Kadoffy, Guitar and Irack.

Nor are they French: mosk.

72 posted on 07/20/2017 5:23:02 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: editor-surveyor
Torah is to be read, not “interpreted.”
All religious texts, especially 3400 year old ones are interpreted for the modern era.
How do you decide what foods, not indigenous to Israel and mentioned in the Torah, are Kosher? One interprets the Law.

Karaism is not Judaism. Karaites hold to the scriptures; Jews follow the twisted ideas of men.

Karaites and Rabbinic Jews disagree on your fantasy of what is and isn't Judaism.

Ethiopians have a strange mix of Phariseeism and Roman catholicism. (IOW, two forms of Nicolaitanism)
Ethiopian Christians are Christian with tradtions older and separate than Roman Christianity. Ethiopian Jews aren't Christian.

73 posted on 07/20/2017 3:38:53 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

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Loads of nonsense!

Torah is not complex in its commands. Nothing to interpret.

Sola Scriptura!


74 posted on 07/20/2017 4:24:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Monkey boy,”

Typical of a liberal prick to resort to name calling when they are determined to avoid discussions.

But then again, the Jews destroyed the Christ through their traditions.


75 posted on 07/22/2017 8:36:03 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

“liberal prick” he says, and then accuses me of “name calling”. Monkey boy is actually the kindest thing I can call someone who says something so stupid that it merits no further comment.

But further comment I must render. Because:

“the Jews destroyed the Christ through their traditions.”

So there we are. I’ve just been called a Christ-killer. OK. Whatever.

But “through their traditions” Our traditions are what Christians turn to to give the life of Jesus significance. He is allegedly the Messiah and savior of the world. That is a Jewish “tradition”. I disagree with Christianity on a great many levels, but as an uniterested observer, I must remind you that without Judaism’s traditions, there would be no Jesus. Zoroastrianism, Egyptian idolatry, the Grecco/Roman pantheon do not speak of the coming of a messiah or the salvation of the world. And you say that our traditions “destroyed” Jesus? I thought he’s supposed to come again one day, according to Christian traditions. His death is the basis of the Christian religion that spread all over the world and has subsisted for two millenia, but now our “traditions” destroyed him?

Look. I don’t have any interest at all in telling you how to be a Christian. But you want to start messing with me and where my temple is located, and saying that my “traditions” are getting me in trouble again, and, yes, calling me a “liberal prick,” and you have earned the name “monkey boy” with interest. Sayonara, monkey boy.


76 posted on 07/22/2017 2:25:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

One more thing: “... resort to name calling when they are determined to avoid discussions.”

I cited book and line of Josephus. I told you of the labyrinth underneath the Temple Mount with mikvaot (ritual baths), Jewish-themed mosaics, and the humongous corner stones that neither the Babylonians nor the Romans could move, as well as the ancient Temple artifacts that the Waqf had bulldozed and dumped for garbage, and your responses in our “discussion” have been to ignore these points. Now I’m the one who’s determined to avoid a discussion? Monkey boy, you best not throw down if you can’t hold up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BSdoHadj2w


77 posted on 07/22/2017 11:23:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t attack the tenets of your religion, and I don’t respond to your attacks on mine. That’s what known as common courtesy. A pity it’s not reciprocated here.


78 posted on 07/22/2017 11:30:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5; crz

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>> “ I’ve just been called a Christ-killer. OK. Whatever.” <<

Don’t sweat it! Had he not been crucified, we all would have to be waiting for the sinless sacrifice.

All acted according to Yehova’s plan. We all are sinners, and thus we all are “killers.”

The traditions date to centuries before “Judaism” came into being in the second temple period. They are “Hebrew” traditions, and were followed by all of Israel, not just the House of Judah, until The House of Israel fell into idolatry, and were scattered by Salmanesser.

The “Blame Judah” game makes no sense at all; we all are equally guilty.
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79 posted on 07/23/2017 5:53:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Eleutheria5

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I have no way of knowing what the tenets of your religion are, unless you tell me.

I didn’t post the comment (#67) to you, but I do stand behind what I posted as Scriptural fact. The Takanot and Ma’Assim are in the majority of cases direct defiance of Yehova’s Torah, and according to Moses words are forbidden.

Whether to obey Moses, or the Pharisees, or Yeshua, or the Nicolaitans, is a personal decision that all make.

I personally pick Moses and Yeshua who agree on all points. Yeshua is “that prophet” referenced by Moses in ch 18.
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80 posted on 07/23/2017 6:05:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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