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Trump's big trade battle with China kicks off Friday
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Posted on 08/02/2017 2:59:46 PM PDT by springwater13

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To: Vaden

Practically everything is now made in China.

I am not exaggerating. Sure food is still grown in America. Oil is still drilled out the ground here. We do some things very well (aircraft we are still strong at) But some of what you said, sound to me like Americans selling foreign goods to other Americans.

You are right RV’s seem to still be made here, but they are very big. It doesn’t make sense to send them around the globe.

Household goods like toothpaste, are cheap, and tend to (in part) be made in America (although a lot aren’t)

Sure we still make military stuff here. BUT THAT IS IT. Everything else is being offshored, and that offshoring is damaging our own economy.

Did you notice in the chart which showed who buys things from China, which is higher up in this thread.

America was the leading buyer. #1. By far.

Yet we SELL a huge amount lower than we buy, back to China.

It is completely one-sided.

It is time, to fix that. For real. Actually it was time about one entire generation ago.

Four presidents ago.

Or more.


41 posted on 08/02/2017 10:05:37 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

You’re claims are 100% provably FALSE.

Everything I stated is true.

You don’t know what you are talking about and you sink into hyperbole.


42 posted on 08/02/2017 11:39:28 PM PDT by Vaden (Donald Trump: making political impossibilites possible since 2015!)
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To: springwater13

So China wants the trade war to stop...it’s simple, just help us end this North Korea situation.

Russia wants sanctions to go away, help us with this north Korea situation.


43 posted on 08/02/2017 11:49:15 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Vaden

Our trade deficit with China is MASSIVE.

Their market is protected. They do not import cars, unless the manufacturers set-up production in China.

Everyone has thus far, thrown up their hands, and sold out.

Not Trump. I’m counting on you Trump. Make America great again.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html


44 posted on 08/03/2017 12:01:13 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Socon-Econ

“just when we need their help”

China has been our enemy in Korea for 67 years. If they were ever going to “help”, they have had plenty of opportunities.

China gives North Korea the nuclear and missile technology - they are not inventing anything new.

China is the problem, not the solution.


45 posted on 08/03/2017 1:56:46 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Socon-Econ

This is happening because they are not helping with the NORKs.


46 posted on 08/03/2017 2:06:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: springwater13

North Korea is China’s only military ally.

The only one.

China has been accumulating increasingly concerned enemies, who greatly outman (e.g. India) and outproduce (USA, Japan, and Korea) it.

Korea would be China’s best chance to prevail in a war against the USA. A trade war would be would be about their worst.

We don’t have to spend a lot of blood and treasure to defeat the Chinese Communists - we just have to stop giving them our treasure to use against us. North Korea can then just collapse on its own.


47 posted on 08/03/2017 2:14:28 AM PDT by BeauBo
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I don’t know exactly how to explain this to you, but we have made China into a rival, in global manufacturing.

Look at everything you have used today.

Your phone. Your iPhone. Your television. Your stereo. All of your clothes. Your tools (if you have bought recently) Basically everything in every Walmart in America is from China.

Food no. Your car, and the fuel it uses, no. But everything else, we have been building up a very strong competitor in China.

Very strong.

We need to start to rebuild our own manufacturing businesses.

Not those of our potential adversaries.


48 posted on 08/03/2017 3:05:24 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Are we going to start a trade war with China just when we need their help — or at least their neutrality — in a fight with N. Korea?

You been paying attention? Trump reached out to China and China pretty much bowed and smiled then spit in his face. The sanctions are to convince them that we mean it when we say we expect them to be helpful in de-fanging the little fat nutcase in N. Korea.

49 posted on 08/03/2017 3:08:28 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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This is how China destroys the USA by destroying it industry by industry:

This is from 2011 and it shows China produces around 70% - 80% of all of the world’s products. Now it's 6 years later and the numbers are worse.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/china/chinamanufacturing.jpg

Can the USA survive as a country when another country produces 99% of what it uses? NO WAY. Trump is right again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/08/chinas-dominance-in-manufacturing-in-one-chart/278366/

50 posted on 08/03/2017 11:04:40 AM PDT by Democrat_media (News Media,Mueller & democrat party doing a coup against Trump w/ Russia lie)
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To: Vaden; cba123

Vaden, I’m sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but I never said “Everything is made in China” cba123 did.

You go into a long tirade about all the things in your house that are made here and also GE & Caterpilar, which are good points.

HOWEVER, there’s no denying the fact that basic economics dictate that there are many Chinese-made products that DO sell based on price. Tell me what is the percentage of items of CLOTHING bought in the USA that are made in the US vs. those made in China? Tell me, how many iPhones are made in the US? How about Memory chips? I rest my case.

You have no answer for that.

And you offered no response to my query about how the US can compete in these economic niches where China has a clear home-court advantage owing to their very cheap labor.

I truly wish there were an answer that would favor moving Chinese mfg back to the USA, but I think in many cases it’s just not realistic.

Again, I’m sorry to burst your bubble... /sarc


51 posted on 08/05/2017 1:07:31 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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