Posted on 08/26/2017 4:39:50 AM PDT by NautiNurse
Sounds like they’re bringing everything they’ve got...heard competence and determination.
Salon (or maybe the Daily Beast?) says there aren’t enough construction workers in America to rebuild Houston.
The problem is, for average people, if the mayor is saying there’s no need to evacuate (because the storm WIND center is not aimed right at us), they are likely going to relax. What I am advocating is that residents in the most vulnerable areas get individual warnings by texts on their phones. The tech to do this is not that hard:
Houston EMS:
“80 % chance your home, 35401 Jones Street, will see 1 ft. flooding above ground level by (insert time/date), 10 ft. by (time/date), waters may not recede for up to 3 weeks. Please evac between (example) 4 - 6 am, (insert date), for best evac routes, go to www.houston.gov/evac.route and enter your password or address and destination. Shelter locations & other info. are also found at that link. An option to delete any information entered will also be provided. Your password number is 1A2B3C4D5E. “
This is just a crude idea with much detail to work out, but it is quite doable.
The graph at your link gives the trends. There’s a useful cause and effect graphic under the “Rainfall” button there too.
“Dang, that’s a $70,000 Suburban destroyed by floodwaters.”
It will be resold in California in a few months and be as good as new. Hahaha
Exactly. Not surprising given the release of water they’re doing.
They wish. Bunch of pessimistic morons. They are wrong again. Liberalism is a mental illness.
Haaahh! Bingo.
Doesn’t take anything for a church—or for that matter, any private home—on high ground to make itself available and welcome in refugees.
“The mayor was envisioning another full evac like Rita. That was not needed. A targeted evacuation of floodplains would have been manageable”
That is how I see it. Targeted evacuation.
People from all over the place have rushed to Houston with boats and other vehicles in an attempt to save as many people as they can.....
The media began playing the blame came almost immediately creating the very narratives we see here about what should have, could have been done..and who to blame.
As to giving individuals warnings you mentioned.....my gosh the news was across the board.. across the nation.. for days ‘ahead’ of this onslaught monster coming.......those in the most vulnerable areas certainly know that they are just that from the floods in Houston of the past.
The bottom line is many people simply don’t want to leave, reasons abound. And obvious until there first floor floods nothing that’s warned will convince them otherwise. In the end people are going to do what they want to do...until they can’t.
Why don’t you submit your ideas to Houston authorites which would show if or not doable in the future....for now it’s hindsight.
Good point. So... You blanket ‘em with documentaries of events that panned out WORSE than forecast, evenings well prior, online, on TV, radio, in print, etc. There’s no shortage of those events, and the media would probably love to go along with it.
There are. They would not have anywhere to stay. Major housing problem ahead. Also with 1 in 6 homes having flood insurance, am guessing that many will be abandoned. Interesting times ahead.
Looking for COE figures on:
1. Current inflow, CFS, both lakes.
2. Projected max inflow, based on rain data to date.
3. Projected max levels, as related to emergency spillway overflow levels.
4. Resultant outflow, where dam overflows meet Buffalo Bayou, in CFS.
Guaranteed COE has these numbers, but not getting off them till asked, and reporters aren’t asking, yet.
So far, I’ve gleaned that N end of Atticks likely to top first, that Barker follows Atticks by 12-24 hours, and that outflow from either or both takes about 12 hours to impact downtown.
Single source on this info, offhand from COE,during Q/A session.
I guess I see your point now, but flood plain maps, who is in what zone, and all of that is a big rugby scrum no matter when you try and apply it.
I know what flood level I am at in the two places I stay. I understand the impacts — but most people don’t. Perhaps it takes painting a line on the ground to make it happen.
I will somewhat repeat what I said on another post above, we have an amazing part of our population that can’t self evacuate, even if such order is given. They expect the “gubmint” to do it for them.
Sure. Like it would take months or years to pump the water out of New Orleans after Katrina. As I recall, it took a few weeks. Another example: Oil well fires in the first Iraq war. Predicted to burn for years. Almost all out in a couple months.
This wasn’t like forecasting within 50 miles of where the eye would hit the coast. The area of massive rainfall was huge, and Houston was dead-center in that area. A shift of 100 miles in the track and Houston still would have been within that area.
There are clearly areas that are 100 year flood plain and flood easily and are on the maps. Those could have been evacuated but they are relatively small. There is a huge amount of 500 year floodplain and the maps are going to be useless due to changes.
1. Water rescue by boats and rafts
2. Staging area on I-45
3. Bus ride to Scholes Airport Galveston
4. Board C-130 to shelters in Dallas
The problem is, the mayor was telling people it would have been MORE dangerous to evacuate, not less. He gave them a disincentive to leave. A targeted evacuation, even if it only got out half those in flood-prone areas, would have been manageable and an improvement upon the current situation, where these people have to be evacuated slowly by boat or helicopter.
Even if we got just the 100 year people out, that would have been an improvement from having to rescue by boat or air.
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