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Houston mayor defends decision not to issue evacuation order
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Posted on 08/27/2017 1:53:35 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: Jarhead9297

By the way, even if you only evacuated people closest to the coast in the lowest elevation areas, it would make a big difference.

If people live in a fortified home, I’m all for them staying put if they think they can weather the storm. I’d want them to be darned sure of it though.


61 posted on 08/27/2017 2:35:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: mewzilla

Now you have hundreds of people in their attic, cutting holes in the roof, hoping for boat or air rescue.

This is another Katrina. We learned NOTHING apparently.


62 posted on 08/27/2017 2:35:47 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Jarhead9297

I have (yet another) dumb question: If the entire city floods — where are they taking the people who are being rescued by boats?


63 posted on 08/27/2017 2:36:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: shanover

“From this point on, everything will be blamed on the President. It’s the same set up as Katrina. The left has politically weaponized Natural Disasters.”

Strangely, no really big natural disasters happened during Obama’s eight years. This is because he made his own disasters - the optics are easier to manage on those.


64 posted on 08/27/2017 2:37:03 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: Sans-Culotte

I hope you are alright. What we’re seeing on the television looks devastating.


65 posted on 08/27/2017 2:37:15 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Vaquero

I thought it was a lesbian police chief?


66 posted on 08/27/2017 2:37:52 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: TigerClaws

Well he could have opened up the Astrodome where people could stay.

In fact some of the same people that went to the Superdome during Katrina may have ended up in Houston and would know the drill. :-)


67 posted on 08/27/2017 2:37:59 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: The Antiyuppie

Are there hundreds of casualties every day when people regularly commute around Houston? I didn’t think so. Misrepresentation #1.

#2, logistics experts? Seriously, in a community run by democrats and entrenched politicians. Don’t buy it for a second. Misused monies just like misused monies in New Orleans for levee maintenance.


68 posted on 08/27/2017 2:38:51 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: TigerClaws
This is another Katrina. We learned NOTHING apparently.

The Democrats learned from Katrina that they can permanently brand a Republican president as a failure if they get a Dem mayor to screw up an emergency such as this. This is their big chance to take Trump down.

69 posted on 08/27/2017 2:39:03 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Sadly. You’re likely 100% correct!

Blame game.

Need a disaster and dead bodies to be able to blame the President.


70 posted on 08/27/2017 2:40:45 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: BenLurkin

Watching evacuations right now. They are not having to move them far to get up from the flooded zones.


71 posted on 08/27/2017 2:41:08 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: The Antiyuppie

Sandy happened and Obama exploited it by appearing with Chris Christie a week or so before the re-election voting took place. The photo op made Obama appear ‘above politics’ and was a big win for him.


72 posted on 08/27/2017 2:41:46 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

That’s the way it seems to me too. Let me add this.

If it is known that an area would be vulnerable in a certain region, then part of the highway planning should be done keeping these times in mind.

Build excess infrastructure so that when things like this happen, outbound flows can be facilitated.

I would add, part of the tax structure in these vulnerable areas should be elevated to help prepare for such emergencies.

Perhaps another good plan would be to create concrete structures where hundreds of thousands could be evacuated to in the nearest more elevated regions.

Even if just cots, some food, and port-a-poties were provided in addition to elevated outward flow, you could provide safety to an awful lot of people.

Perhaps all school gymnasiums in regions like this should be required to be storm proof, and perhaps oversized too, just to handle things like this.

If folks put their heads together, there are a lot of things that could be done.

Nope, in fifty years they’ll do it all over with no more planning than now.


73 posted on 08/27/2017 2:42:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: smokingfrog

I work in logistics. All of my shipments going into Houston and the surrounding areas have been pushed back to after Labor Day.


74 posted on 08/27/2017 2:42:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: TigerClaws

ABC News on it:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-mayor-defends-decision-issue-evacuation-order/story?id=49453471

Dallas News:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/27/trump-plans-texas-trip-soon-disruptive

Daily Beast:

Houston Told People to Stay for Harvey, Now They Can’t Get Out

http://www.thedailybeast.com/houston-told-people-to-stay-for-harvey-now-they-cant-get-out


75 posted on 08/27/2017 2:44:12 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Vaquero

Diversity, that’s how.


76 posted on 08/27/2017 2:48:10 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: DoughtyOne

From the Daily Beast story:

By Sunday morning, thousands of Houston homes were taking on water and thousands of people were trapped in their homes. The city received 56,000 calls to 911 by 1 p.m. on Sunday.

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They knew the storm was coming four days ago and it was for sure a major flooding event.

Houston has HOV lanes. Those could have been used to be bus / ambulance evacuation only.

This is going to result in a major loss of life - hundreds if not thousands.


77 posted on 08/27/2017 2:48:12 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Government knows best. People can’t be trusted to evacuate themselves, they must be guided by Government.

Excuse me while of go throw up.


78 posted on 08/27/2017 2:49:49 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I don’t care for Turner politically but let’s put that aside for now. He is right, Houston can’t be effectively evacuated. Even if it could it is far too late. It is now a matter of loss management and getting people dry, fed and clean as soon as possible. Much of the city is going to be made uninhabitable.

Sadly, it would be better if Houston took a direct hit and the rain came in the windows and roof instead from rising water that most people don’t have insurance for.

When living on the Gulf Coast I always said to save some 2x4’s to throw through the windows.


79 posted on 08/27/2017 2:51:17 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: TigerClaws

Good point on the HOV lanes. Those could be kept open going both ways, so emptied large capacity vehicles could return to make another trip. Good call.

I will say this. Those lanes should be large capacity only, and anyone moving their single family size car into them should have their vehicle impounded with a massive fine.

The large capacity vehicles going South should be protected some way from idiots going north on that side of the freeway, so there wouldn’t be collisions.

Exits from the number 1 HOV lane going South should be created for this type of an event.

You know, in just a few minutes we have touched on ways to remove hundreds of thousands of people out of the area, if not multiple millions.

Perhaps the best thing to do is craft a number of plans so that nearly all the populace had an out in times of danger.

It might also be a good idea if all elderly people were encouraged perhaps helped to move out of exposed regions, so they wouldn’t be a part of this process when the time came.


80 posted on 08/27/2017 2:56:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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