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It's a fact: climate change made Hurricane Harvey more deadly
The Guardian ^ | August 28, 2017 | by Michael E. Mann

Posted on 08/28/2017 10:58:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge”

YES “almost certainly” !!

I have another theory which the author conveniently omits:

How bout UNBRIDLED IMMIGRATION which pours people into the cities, particularly coastal ones? You know, more densely populated, more roads and highways, more expansion over farmlands and prairie? More animals for food? More pets. More lives at risk. More poor people, more without insurance or means to evacuate. Or understand or act on the advice. Or needing government assistance. Or looting and thieving and the uncountable instances of fraud that will inevitably result?

Yeah, what about all THAT?

This is a “Disaster” because it hit a major urban area. Had this hit around Brownsville, you’d nary a peep about it.

But yeah it’s that damn “global warming” errrrr “climate change”


61 posted on 08/28/2017 11:24:18 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Trump’s fault!

In 2005, after Katrina and Rita, we were told that frequent Category 3 and higher hurricanes were the inevitable result of Global Climate Change. Better get used to them because were are going to have several a year from now on until enough carbon taxes are enacted to fund Algore’s retirement.

That was immediately followed by a record 12 year period without a single Category 3 or higher hurricane hitting anywhere on the U.S. coast. Now every bad weather event is automatically blamed on Global Climate Change.

Sandy was a minor hurricane. The devastation that it caused was entirely the result of high population density where it happened to hit. The same can be said of Harvey.

The only reason that Houston became the largest city in Texas is because Galveston was the largest city in Texas when it got wiped out by the 1900 hurricane. So people and industry moved inland to the then swamps and flat lands of Houston.


62 posted on 08/28/2017 11:24:44 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought there was a high pressure area sitting to the north that prevented Harvey from drifting up and dissipating.


63 posted on 08/28/2017 11:25:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge. "

On average, were any of these "more intense" than what we've seen with past storms?

64 posted on 08/28/2017 11:26:32 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Cementjungle
The Great Hurricane of 1780, also known as Huracán San Calixto, the Great Hurricane of the Antilles, and the 1780 Disaster, is the deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record

The Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is still the deadliest Gulf Coast hurricane on record, a record unlikely ever to be beaten.

65 posted on 08/28/2017 11:27:03 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Headline: Weather makes weather more dangerous!


66 posted on 08/28/2017 11:27:49 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why isn’t this fraudster in jail?


67 posted on 08/28/2017 11:28:09 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can’t wait to hear the crazy press ask Trump questions when he visits Texas.

I am sure either NYT or CNN will ask if he feels guilty over his climate change policy and abandonment of the Paris Accords and their role on creating this disaster in Texas.

Pure BS and Fake News, but we all know it is coming.


68 posted on 08/28/2017 11:30:14 AM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is still the deadliest Gulf Coast hurricane on record, a record unlikely ever to be beaten.

I'm sure there have been plenty more over the millennia, there's just no one around who remembers them all.

69 posted on 08/28/2017 11:30:20 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge.

The very next sentence:

The stalling is due to very weak prevailing winds, which are failing to steer the storm off to sea, allowing it to spin around and wobble back and forth. This pattern of subtropical expansion is predicted in model simulations of human-caused climate change.

I contend that all the wind farms are taking the wind out of the atmosphere because energy is fixed and can't be in the generators and the atmosphere at the same time.

70 posted on 08/28/2017 11:32:04 AM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: jonno
"Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge."

Most of the damage caused by Harvey was not the result of winds or storm surge. It was the result of Harvey stalling after coming ashore (and getting downgraded to a tropical storm) and dumping trillions of gallons of water over a densely populated area.

71 posted on 08/28/2017 11:32:05 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: ArtDodger

Penn State? Joe Bastardi lives not far from there. He should have been on the dais with that ass to refute his thesis with inconvenient facts.


72 posted on 08/28/2017 11:33:24 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I know growing up hurricanes were not bad. In fact flooding and high winds never happened. More like strong thunderstorms...


73 posted on 08/28/2017 11:34:27 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
🐎💩
74 posted on 08/28/2017 11:36:47 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: granite
I contend that all the wind farms are taking the wind out of the atmosphere because energy is fixed and can't be in the generators and the atmosphere at the same time.

You should run your little theory through a Climate Modeloscope v2.A7. They are very accurate - and automatically adjust to meet theory and funding requirements.

75 posted on 08/28/2017 11:38:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

climate change and statues


76 posted on 08/28/2017 11:40:30 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boy that was quick!

So what made Harvey so different from the others based on the data? And my, that data was collected and processed quickly!

Or is the simplest explanation the right one, that this was a ready-made assertion?


77 posted on 08/28/2017 11:44:38 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Yep - unfortunately, many on the left will disregard your “inconvenient” facts. ‘Cause MM’s word is gospel don’t cha know...


78 posted on 08/28/2017 11:46:55 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Moonman62

Perhaps Trump should ask why it was labeled a Cat 4.


79 posted on 08/28/2017 11:47:15 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I cordially invite Dr. Mann to come down here to H-town and tell everyone here in the oil patch face-to-face what he said in the Guardian article ....


80 posted on 08/28/2017 11:57:42 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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