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It's a fact: climate change made Hurricane Harvey more deadly
The Guardian ^ | August 28, 2017 | by Michael E. Mann

Posted on 08/28/2017 10:58:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bwahahahaha

Water water every where


81 posted on 08/28/2017 12:02:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sea level rise attributable to climate change – some of which is due to coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling – is more than half a foot over the past few decades. That means the storm surge was half a foot higher

So the surge was higher because the sea for sunk. Right.


82 posted on 08/28/2017 12:02:48 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
He might not actually be wrong on this one... the climatologist theory that I respect goes back to basics... PV=nRT, the Ideal Gas Equation... someone applied this to the temperature graphs, and it apparently fits far better than blaming the 0.04% of the atmosphere that is CO2... AIR PRESSURE determines much more about the climate than anything else... and hurricanes are all about insane air pressure situations.

So while he is wildly off on all of his man-made nonsense, the Climate Changing (through natural systems) could be a part of hurricanes becoming worse, because the are air pressure anomalies.

83 posted on 08/28/2017 12:11:54 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Two reasons to disregard this article:

One, Michael Mann.

Two, The Guardian.

84 posted on 08/28/2017 12:15:59 PM PDT by HotHunt
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And then we have an “oops” in the NOAA sea level data for the Freeport TX (by Houston) sea level data.

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8772440

Makes you wonder about the rest of the data locations...


85 posted on 08/28/2017 12:28:59 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: jospehm20

My models show that rain will get wetter and wetter over the next few decades.


86 posted on 08/28/2017 12:51:01 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Crucial

At the very least. The same happened with Matthew last year. The Weather Service is corrupt.


87 posted on 08/28/2017 12:51:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shove your hockey stick, Mikey


88 posted on 08/28/2017 12:52:41 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: chris37

Then the last nearly 12 years WITHOUT a hurricane.


89 posted on 08/28/2017 1:47:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: jospehm20

Michael Mann, B.S., M.S., P.o.S.


90 posted on 08/28/2017 1:54:28 PM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is a simple thermodynamic relationship known as the Clausius-Clapeyron equation that tells us there is a roughly 3% increase in average atmospheric moisture content for each 0.5C of warming. Sea surface temperatures in the area where Harvey intensified were 0.5-1C warmer than current-day average temperatures, which translates to 1-1.5C warmer than “average” temperatures a few decades ago. That means 3-5% more moisture in the atmosphere.

That large amount of moisture creates the potential for much greater rainfalls and greater flooding. The combination of coastal flooding and heavy rainfall is responsible for the devastating flooding that Houston is experiencing.

Not only are the surface waters of the Gulf of Mexico unusually warm right now, but there is a deep layer of warm water that Harvey was able to feed upon when it intensified at near record pace as it neared the coast. Human-caused warming is penetrating down into the ocean. It’s creating deeper layers of warm water in the Gulf and elsewhere.

My, this fellow certainly has a large manure shovel.

91 posted on 08/28/2017 1:57:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sea level rise attributable to climate change – some of which is due to coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling – is more than half a foot over the past few decades.

I smell BS. Oh, no wonder, it's Michael Mann.

92 posted on 08/28/2017 2:03:32 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The most discredited Warmer on the planet makes an absolute statement that “Climate Change” made Harvey worse. Is he referring to the hurricane or the rabbit? LOL


93 posted on 08/28/2017 2:06:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: MileHi
coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling

"Subsidence" is the lowering of surface levels relative to an adjacent form, such as coast relative to the ocean.

Mikey Manny employs the usual lie-by-omission, suggesting that coastal subsidence is caused only by "human disturbance," which is complete B.S. Most of it comes from tectonic activity and shifts in soil deposits, typically from rivers and ancient soil layers that are ever in flux.

Subsidence's opposite, "uplifting," happens as well, such as soil deposits from rivers that extend coastlines. I was just this morning reading about how many of city states involved in the "Ionian Revolt" (Anatolia, or modern Turkey) against Persian rule are today located hundreds of yards or more inland (just like Thermopylae is no longer on the edge of the sea) due to fluvial deposits that extended coastlines into the sea.
94 posted on 08/28/2017 4:04:50 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Teacher317

Weather is dictated by the Navier-Stokes equation, and is a chaotic dynamical system. This means that weather is 100% deterministic, and there is nothing that man can do to control the weather. All chaotic dynamical systems suffer from sensitive dependency on initial conditions, which means that if a butterfly farts in China today it can change the weather in Texas in about 3 days. So anything could have caused this storm.


95 posted on 08/28/2017 6:47:51 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: nicollo
I was just this morning reading about how many of city states involved in the "Ionian Revolt" (Anatolia, or modern Turkey) against Persian rule are today located hundreds of yards or more inland (just like Thermopylae is no longer on the edge of the sea) due to fluvial deposits that extended coastlines into the sea.

Great point.

Mikey Manny employs the usual lie-by-omission...

His stock in trade.

96 posted on 08/29/2017 3:55:53 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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