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It's a fact: climate change made Hurricane Harvey more deadly
The Guardian ^
| August 28, 2017
| by Michael E. Mann
Posted on 08/28/2017 10:58:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Bwahahahaha
Water water every where
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:02:47 PM PDT
by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sea level rise attributable to climate change some of which is due to coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling is more than half a foot over the past few decades. That means the storm surge was half a foot higher
So the surge was higher because the sea for sunk. Right.
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:02:48 PM PDT
by
Excellence
(Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
He might not actually be wrong on this one... the climatologist theory that I respect goes back to basics... PV=nRT, the Ideal Gas Equation... someone applied this to the temperature graphs, and it apparently fits far better than blaming the 0.04% of the atmosphere that is CO2... AIR PRESSURE determines much more about the climate than anything else... and hurricanes are all about insane air pressure situations.
So while he is wildly off on all of his man-made nonsense, the Climate Changing (through natural systems) could be a part of hurricanes becoming worse, because the are air pressure anomalies.
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:11:54 PM PDT
by
Teacher317
(We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Two reasons to disregard this article:
One, Michael Mann.
Two, The Guardian.
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:15:59 PM PDT
by
HotHunt
To: All
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:28:59 PM PDT
by
az_gila
To: jospehm20
My models show that rain will get wetter and wetter over the next few decades.
To: Crucial
At the very least. The same happened with Matthew last year. The Weather Service is corrupt.
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:51:17 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(Make America Great Again!)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Shove your hockey stick, Mikey
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posted on
08/28/2017 12:52:41 PM PDT
by
RightGeek
(FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
To: chris37
Then the last nearly 12 years WITHOUT a hurricane.
To: jospehm20
Michael Mann, B.S., M.S., P.o.S.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is a simple thermodynamic relationship known as the Clausius-Clapeyron equation that tells us there is a roughly 3% increase in average atmospheric moisture content for each 0.5C of warming. Sea surface temperatures in the area where Harvey intensified were 0.5-1C warmer than current-day average temperatures, which translates to 1-1.5C warmer than average temperatures a few decades ago. That means 3-5% more moisture in the atmosphere. That large amount of moisture creates the potential for much greater rainfalls and greater flooding. The combination of coastal flooding and heavy rainfall is responsible for the devastating flooding that Houston is experiencing.
Not only are the surface waters of the Gulf of Mexico unusually warm right now, but there is a deep layer of warm water that Harvey was able to feed upon when it intensified at near record pace as it neared the coast. Human-caused warming is penetrating down into the ocean. Its creating deeper layers of warm water in the Gulf and elsewhere.
My, this fellow certainly has a large manure shovel.
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posted on
08/28/2017 1:57:43 PM PDT
by
Charles Martel
(Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sea level rise attributable to climate change some of which is due to coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling is more than half a foot over the past few decades. I smell BS. Oh, no wonder, it's Michael Mann.
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posted on
08/28/2017 2:03:32 PM PDT
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
The most discredited Warmer on the planet makes an absolute statement that “Climate Change” made Harvey worse. Is he referring to the hurricane or the rabbit? LOL
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posted on
08/28/2017 2:06:35 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
To: MileHi
coastal subsidence caused by human disturbance such as oil drilling
"Subsidence" is the lowering of surface levels relative to an adjacent form, such as coast relative to the ocean.
Mikey Manny employs the usual lie-by-omission, suggesting that coastal subsidence is caused only by "human disturbance," which is complete B.S. Most of it comes from tectonic activity and shifts in soil deposits, typically from rivers and ancient soil layers that are ever in flux.
Subsidence's opposite, "uplifting," happens as well, such as soil deposits from rivers that extend coastlines. I was just this morning reading about how many of city states involved in the "Ionian Revolt" (Anatolia, or modern Turkey) against Persian rule are today located hundreds of yards or more inland (just like Thermopylae is no longer on the edge of the sea) due to fluvial deposits that extended coastlines into the sea.
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posted on
08/28/2017 4:04:50 PM PDT
by
nicollo
(I said no!)
To: Teacher317
Weather is dictated by the Navier-Stokes equation, and is a chaotic dynamical system. This means that weather is 100% deterministic, and there is nothing that man can do to control the weather. All chaotic dynamical systems suffer from sensitive dependency on initial conditions, which means that if a butterfly farts in China today it can change the weather in Texas in about 3 days. So anything could have caused this storm.
To: nicollo
I was just this morning reading about how many of city states involved in the "Ionian Revolt" (Anatolia, or modern Turkey) against Persian rule are today located hundreds of yards or more inland (just like Thermopylae is no longer on the edge of the sea) due to fluvial deposits that extended coastlines into the sea. Great point.
Mikey Manny employs the usual lie-by-omission...
His stock in trade.
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posted on
08/29/2017 3:55:53 PM PDT
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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