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Hurricane Irma Live Thread
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Posted on 09/04/2017 2:02:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse

While thoughts and prayers are with our Texas FRiends and neighbors, we are at the peak of the Atlantic Tropical Storm season. Hurricane Irma continues its trek from Cape Verde across the pond and toward the Hebert Box (see below). People with interests in the Southeastern U.S. and Gulf of Mexico should be alert to the forecast path updates for this powerful storm. It is important to note that the average NHC track errors are about 175 and 225 statute miles at days 4 and 5, respectively.

Hurricane Irma originally had a small wind field. In the past 24 hours, however, the wind field has expanded with hurriance force winds up to 40 miles from the center, and tropical storm force winds up to 140 miles from the storm center.

FL Governor Rick Scott reminds Floridians: Families should take time today to make sure you have a disaster plan and fully-stocked Disaster Supply Kit. Florida residents from West Palm Beach to Tampa Bay are heeding the alert. Store shelves are emptying of bottled water.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: cat6; category6; florida; hurricane; hurricaneirma; irma; livehurricaneirma; nautinurse; prepper; preppers; puertorico; virginislands
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To: All

914mb

winds still 185

also we now have THREE hurricanes in the Atlantic


1,601 posted on 09/06/2017 1:56:57 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Chgogal

You are very welcome~ Have a very safe trip!


1,602 posted on 09/06/2017 1:57:24 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“...unless you’re in a fortified structure designed to withstand it that will not flood.”

Not that I’d necessarily wanna do it but I’ve wondered how well a person could ride out a hurricane in a place like Fort Jefferson in the Dry Tortugas.

That fort has been around since before the Civil War and still seems to be structurally sound.


1,603 posted on 09/06/2017 2:00:31 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Paul R.

I’m not versed on this at all myself. I am just assuming (almost invariably a mistake) that the inspectors know how to count containers - whether melted or not. So if that is true, I’m wondering if it could even be problematic to have the containers even if empty. Although it is also true the inspectors have ways of knowing if hydrocarbons such as gas were in the vicinity and contributed to the flames. They are pretty amazing in their inspection techniques.


1,604 posted on 09/06/2017 2:00:44 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: All

Hurricane Irma Discussion Number 31
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
500 PM AST Wed Sep 06 2017

The eye of Irma passed over the northernmost Virgin Islands earlier
this afternoon and it is now located just to their northwest. The
satellite and radar presentation of the hurricane remains extremely
impressive. An Air Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft reported
peak SFMR winds of 156 kt and flight-level winds of 164 kt during
its mission this afternoon. Although there have been no SFMR or
flight-level winds as high as what was observed yesterday, the
initial intensity remains 160 kt, due to the potential of
undersampling. Dropsonde observations in the eye indicated that the
pressure rose a few millibars this morning, but the most recent
aircraft report shows that the pressure has fallen to 914 mb.

The hurricane remains on a west-northwestward motion at about 14
kt. A high pressure ridge over the western Atlantic is forecast to
keep Irma on a west-northwestward course over the next 48 to 72
hours. The track guidance is still in good agreement during that
period, and little change to the NHC forecast was required. By the
weekend, a shortwave trough diving southward over the east-central
United States is expected to cause Irma to turn northwestward and
northward. The 12Z guidance has generally shifted slightly
westward, closer to the previous NHC forecast. As a result, little
overall change was made to the 4-5 day track forecast. The NHC
track is once again close to the HFIP corrected consensus model.
This is also near the 12Z GEFS ensemble mean, but a little east of
the latest ECMWF ensemble mean. Users are reminded that the average
NHC track errors at days 4 and 5 are about 175 and 225 miles,
respectively.

Low vertical wind shear and warm waters along the forecast track of
Irma should allow it to remain a very powerful hurricane during the
next several days, and the intensity forecast is again near the
upper-end of the guidance and is the same as the previous advisory
through 96 hours. Increasingly southwesterly shear and potential
land interaction late in the period is expected to cause some
decrease in Irma’s strength by day 5.

Efforts to provide the forecast models with as much data as possible
continue, with 6-hourly NWS balloon launches across much of the
continental United States, and the NOAA G-IV aircraft currently
sampling the environment around the storm.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Irma is a potentially catastrophic category 5 hurricane and will
bring life-threatening wind, storm surge, and rainfall hazards to
Puerto Rico tonight, the northern coast of Hispaniola Thursday, and
the Turks and Caicos and southeastern and central Bahamas Thursday
and Friday.

2. Hurricane watches are in effect for the northwestern Bahamas and
much of Cuba. Irma is likely to bring dangerous wind, storm surge,
and rainfall to portions of these areas on Friday and Saturday.

3. The threat of direct hurricane impacts in Florida over the
weekend and early next week has increased. Hurricane watches could
be issued for portions of the Florida Keys and the Florida peninsula
on Thursday.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/2100Z 18.8N 65.4W 160 KT 185 MPH
12H 07/0600Z 19.6N 67.6W 155 KT 180 MPH
24H 07/1800Z 20.7N 70.4W 150 KT 175 MPH
36H 08/0600Z 21.5N 73.1W 145 KT 165 MPH
48H 08/1800Z 22.2N 75.6W 140 KT 160 MPH
72H 09/1800Z 23.2N 79.0W 135 KT 155 MPH
96H 10/1800Z 26.0N 80.2W 125 KT 145 MPH
120H 11/1800Z 31.0N 81.0W 105 KT 120 MPH


1,605 posted on 09/06/2017 2:02:58 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998
Southern Florida is getting close to the critical 3 days out in the model runs, and the chance of a major shift is decreasing with each run going forward.


1,606 posted on 09/06/2017 2:07:25 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: janetjanet998
"...also we now have THREE hurricanes in the Atlantic"

Meanwhile Two More Hurricanes Form: Jose Right Behind Irma, Katia In The Gulf


1,607 posted on 09/06/2017 2:08:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: dfwgator

Heartbreaking news about Barbuda.


1,608 posted on 09/06/2017 2:09:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: hankbrown

Wind direction. I’ve been in a couple of hurricanes (100mph+) where I was actually in a beachfront hotel. The hotel room had a patio on the beach side and another one on the highway or “bay side”. On the beach side, the floor to ceiling sliding doors were bowing in from the wind. You didn’t dare attempt to open them and the heavy curtains were drawn just to catch any flying glass should the sliding doors fail. On the bay side, you could sit out on the patio and enjoy a refreshing beverage while watching the air conditioning cowlings sail off from the roof above, down into the parking lot and listening to the cacophony of car alarms.

Of course, after a while the storm passes over you and the wind changes direction and you abandon the bayside and head back out to the beachfront patio...


1,609 posted on 09/06/2017 2:12:00 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: janetjanet998
Is anyone familiar with storm surges in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale coasts? We are leaving for Tallahassee, but many neighbors are staying in place in Zone B.
1,610 posted on 09/06/2017 2:13:05 PM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: dirtboy

how much increasing wind shear is there expected to be over FL do you know?

this is the second time the NHC center has mentioned it..

That may be the only hope...I really thought this nightmare can’t be happening but models very consistent


1,611 posted on 09/06/2017 2:14:33 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: abb; abbi_normal_2; aberaussie; abner; AbsoluteGrace; alancarp; Alas Babylon!; Alia; ...
5:00PM Update
Location...18.8N 65.4W
About 40 MI...NW of St. Thomas
About 55 MI...ENE of San Juan Puerto Rico
Maximum Sustained Winds...185 MPH
Present Movement...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 16 MPH
Minimum Central Pressure...914 MB...27.17 Inches

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 50 miles from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 185
miles.


On/Off Hurricane List Mash Here-->

1,612 posted on 09/06/2017 2:15:11 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: dirtboy
This latest forecast from NHC is EXTREMELY scary. Why? Because the storm track takes it directly over the Miami, FL metro area. And that means potentially catastrophic damage to the extremely vulnerable coastline of Miami Beach itself, with the potentially for massive damage from high winds, heavy rains and storm surge. In short, if South Beach suffers very heavy damage the economic hit to the Miami area could last for a decade or more as the Miami Beach area is slowly rebuilt--if at all.
1,613 posted on 09/06/2017 2:15:59 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: rodguy911
yes we have been preparing we have a full tank of gas and we leave in the morning at 3:45 to beat the traffic we’re going to North Florida to the villages home of a Republican enclave

Good. Hope your trip is fast and uneventful.

1,614 posted on 09/06/2017 2:17:49 PM PDT by American Quilter (When does the wall start going up?)
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To: Chgogal

“That order is probably coming late Wednesday or early Thursday,” Mayor Carlos Gimenez told reporters Tuesday.

He said county evacuation zones A and B would be the target of the order, but that future orders may broaden the evacuation target.

map: http://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article171361392.ece/binary/evacuationzonemap2013.pdf

It sounds as if zone B is considered in danger from the surge and will be ordered out tomorrow.


1,615 posted on 09/06/2017 2:18:11 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: RayChuang88

We’ll see if buildings like the Portofino were REALLY designed and built to withstand cat 5 canes.


1,616 posted on 09/06/2017 2:19:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: NautiNurse

https://www.facebook.com/abstvradio/?hc_ref=ARRfWreGCddZdVakSbH9kI6KnN7n3UUTtdNxjxtPFK35OAKr6sZ1dBJZ_oZCKVe18mY

ABS Television/Radio · 20:16 Due to delays caused by weather conditions, Prime Minister Gaston Browne has departed for Barbuda.
Prime Minister will provide a telephone update from Barbuda to us.
1 hr

ABS Television/Radio
ABS Television/Radio · 1:00:38 PRIME MINISTER BROWNE REPORTS 90% OF THE HOUSING STOCK IN BARBUDA TOTALLY DESTROYED. ONE FATALITY.
42 mins


1,617 posted on 09/06/2017 2:20:37 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

this is where all that tourist money should help...IF the pols haven’t pocket it.


1,618 posted on 09/06/2017 2:24:43 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: dirtboy

Has Shep Smith started telling people in Miami they’re all dead yet? Not interested until the fool is melting down.


1,619 posted on 09/06/2017 2:27:50 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Chgogal

I can’t find the link but found a simulation site a couple days where you could click and it would tell you the surge feet,,,zone B is a CAT 2...and if I recall correctly 6 feet for a CAT 4-5 would be in those zones...and of course waves on top of that

they are stupid for staying and they better hope the storm stays east

I’m not sure what affect the angle it is coming will have on the surge either....

also the storm will get even bigger in size which means more surge


1,620 posted on 09/06/2017 2:27:59 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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