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Hurricane Irma Live Thread Part II
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Posted on 09/07/2017 8:09:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Erik Latranyi

At this point, evacuation may be as dangerous as hunkering down. There are serious traffic issues on all north bound roads. Plus, gas is in very short supply and there are no vacant hotels south of Tennessee.

Riding it out in Sebring. MIL is too frail to evacuate.


801 posted on 09/08/2017 4:44:28 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Speaking of getting out...

MARIEL HEMINGWAY TELLS MANAGER OF HEMINGWAY HOUSE GET THE HELL OUT!!!

The cats, too.

802 posted on 09/08/2017 4:44:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: janetjanet998

In Cape Coral, that’s the model I’m basing my prep on.


803 posted on 09/08/2017 4:46:10 AM PDT by jersey117 (Sp)
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To: Islander7

Georgia has opened shelters for Irma evacuees who can make it that far.


804 posted on 09/08/2017 4:46:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla
Atlanta Braves are giving free tickets to any Florida evacuees this weekend
805 posted on 09/08/2017 4:50:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: NautiNurse

Homestead?


806 posted on 09/08/2017 4:55:43 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: The 10th man

LOL even in Pennsylvania I’m a nervous wreck.


807 posted on 09/08/2017 4:55:45 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: rodguy911

where are you today, Friday morning? Please stay safe.


808 posted on 09/08/2017 4:55:49 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: NautiNurse

Homestead?


809 posted on 09/08/2017 4:56:02 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: mewzilla; All

BULLETIN
Hurricane Irma Intermediate Advisory Number 37A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
800 AM EDT Fri Sep 08 2017

...CORE OF HURRICANE IRMA FORECAST TO MOVE BETWEEN THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS AND THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA TODAY...

SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION


LOCATION...21.8N 74.7W
ABOUT 80 MI...125 KM NE OF CABO LUCRECIA CUBA
ABOUT 450 MI...720 KM SE OF MIAMI FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH...240 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...927 MB...27.37 INCHES


810 posted on 09/08/2017 4:59:08 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Mozzarella is a good one to start with. If you can get raw milk, that will help.


811 posted on 09/08/2017 5:00:41 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: NautiNurse
On a lighter note. I think....

This photo of chickens in the backseat of a car evacuating from Hurricane Irma is going viral

812 posted on 09/08/2017 5:05:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: NautiNurse
While still a monster, it is starting to be a relief to finally see interaction with Hispaniola and Cuba starting to weaken the storm some.

Any increment of decrease is a blessing.

813 posted on 09/08/2017 5:08:01 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: HollyB
"Perhaps it’s a little further north up the coast, but they are calling g it S beach because it’s close enough."

What beach in Miami is not south beach? They're all about as south as you can get...


814 posted on 09/08/2017 5:08:27 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: mewzilla

815 posted on 09/08/2017 5:11:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: mewzilla
Threat Level Extreme:

Potential for Devastating to Catastrophic Impact:

*Structural damage to sturdy buildings, some with complete roof and wall failures. Complete destruction of mobile homes. Damage greatly accentuated by large airborne projectiles. Locations may be uninhabitable for weeks or months.

*Numerous large trees snapped or uprooted along with fences and roadway signs blown over.

*Many roads impassable from large debris, and more within urban or heavily wooded places. Many bridges, causeways, and access routes impassable.

*Widespread power and communications outages.

816 posted on 09/08/2017 5:14:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: NautiNurse

Wonder how many of the folks in those areas have adequate insurance..?

Sigh...


817 posted on 09/08/2017 5:15:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

Everyone with a mortgage or HELOC, and plenty of others like me.


818 posted on 09/08/2017 5:19:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: eastforker; NELSON111; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; ...
Dude, get a life. According to you, your God is killing innocent people just to punish a few, you are a sick individual.

No, God is not punishing any innocent people by allowing evil or by judgments upon sinners or things which test character (note that God allowed the devil to send a great wind from the wilderness that killed Job's kids), for no one is innocent save for a relative few souls who are not morally accountable, such as infants, and whose death is a gracious deliverance from this life (and likely becoming lost) into Heaven.

But seeing as we all have broken the good laws of God and misused the good things He gave us, and often acted proud and contrary to the light we have, with most even spurning the grace of God offered in salvation by God not sparing His own Son, but delivering Him up for us all, then the question is, why should we not see manifest Divine judgments, whether by what God allows or actually sends (which He can and does)? Why does God actually restrain evil so much that the whole world is not like North Korea, which is a more manifest kind of world the devil produces?

And yet God makes the evil that He allows to work out for Good for those that love Him, and thus love what is Good. (Romans 8:32)

The problem of reconciling an Omnipotent merciful and gracious God with the evil of the world is actually a theological subject called Theodicy, and considering the alternatives - God allowing people to make choices, and an alternative to faithfulness to Him, and consequences which also affect others (by what He allows or sends), yet restraining evil and providing salvation on His own expense, and making evil work out for their good - is the only reasonable plan versus all other possible scenarios. See here .

And as a nation, we are the most blessed of all, and thus more accountable for our overall declension from God, and things like Irma are a wake up God which ought to remind people of that we are but men, not God, and are in need of Him, and whose laws we have increasingly spurned and are in need of repentance, while trials such as this make for a stronger national character. And yet i am sure more severe trials and judgments will come.

Like Israel of old,

Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:3,4)

I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. (Hosea 8:12)

And lest you think is this some unpatriotic ravings of some fundamentalist Christian, i will leave you with the words of a greater man than myself:

Proclamation for National Day of Humiliation, Fasting, and Prayer

President Abraham Lincoln

WHEREAS, The Senate of the United States; devoutly recognizing the Supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation.

And Whereas, it is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to owe their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.

And, insomuch as we know that, by His Divine law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war, which now desolates the land, may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole People. We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown.

But we have forgotten God.

We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!

It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.

All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope, authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace.

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the Seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the City of Washington, this thirtieth day of March, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty seventh.

Abraham Lincoln, President

William H Seward,

Secretary of State

The Senate resolution requesting the president to proclaim a day for "national prayer and humiliation" was introduced by Senator James Harlan on March 2, and adopted on March 3, 1863. , and likely becoming like the liberal and , and never has

819 posted on 09/08/2017 5:23:53 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: NautiNurse

The 1780 Atlantic hurricane season ran through the summer and fall in 1780. The 1780 season was extraordinarily destructive, and was the deadliest Atlantic hurricane season in recorded history with over 28,000 deaths. Four different hurricanes, one in June and three in October, caused at least 1,000 deaths each;[1][2] this event has never been repeated and only in the 1893 and 2005 seasons were there two such hurricanes.[3] The season also had the deadliest Atlantic hurricane of all time, since known as the Great Hurricane of 1780.

Landfalling storms affected the Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Bermuda, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and the New England states.

San Antonio Hurricane

The San Antonio Hurricane,[5] also known as the St. Lucia Hurricane. On June 13, a hurricane "caused deaths and losses" on Puerto Rico, after having also struck St. Lucia, where it killed around 4,000 to 5,000.[4][6] It later went on to the Dominican Republic.[5]

Louisiana Hurricane

New Orleans experienced a powerful hurricane on August 24, with winds gusting over 160 mph completely destroying 39 of the 43 buildings in Grand Isle, Louisiana then the eye passing over New Orleans that night, severely damaging structures in what is now known as the French Quarter, causing harvest-ruining crop damage, severe flooding, and tornadoes. This was from an entry from Count de Lafrenière's diary. It killed around 25 people.[6]

St. Kitts Tropical Storm

On August 25, St. Kitts in the Leeward Islands was struck by a storm.[4]

Savanna-la-Mar Hurricane

A strong storm formed in the southern Caribbean Sea on October 1. Early on, it sunk the British transport ship Monarch, killing several hundred Spanish prisoners and the ship's entire crew. The hurricane began to move northwest towards Jamaica, where it destroyed the port of Savanna-la-Mar on October 3. Many of the town's residents gathered at the coast to spectate, and 20 foot surge engulfed the onlookers, docked ships, and many of the town's buildings. In the nearby port village of Lucea, 400 people and all but two structures perished, with 360 people also killed in the nearby town of Montego Bay. It would go on to sink the British frigate Phoenix (killing 200 of it crew) and ships-of-the-line Victor, Barbadoes, and Scarborough and crippled many others. It continued its direction, and hit Cuba on October 4, followed by a pass over the Bahamas.[6] By some estimates, the storm caused 3,000 deaths.[1][2]

The Great Hurricane

Main article: Great Hurricane of 1780

The second hurricane of October 1780 is still referred to as "The Great Hurricane" in some places. Its official name, and how it is referred to by most Antillians is "San Calixto Hurricane" and it is also called the "Great Hurricane of the Antilles".[5] The storm had winds of 135 miles per hour or greater and forward motion speed of less than 10 miles per hour.[6] Causing a record 22,000 deaths in the eastern Caribbean Sea, it rates as the all-time deadliest hurricane in the Atlantic. "Further, the historical importance of the storm was heightened by the presence of the powerful fleets of Britain and France, both maneuvering on nearby islands to strike blows at each other's rich possessions in the Antilles."[4]

The storm formed before or on October 10. It devastated the island of Barbados on October 10 with 200+ mph wind gusts,[7] killing 4,300 and creating an economic depression. St. Vincent suffered a 20-foot (6 meter) storm surge. The storm went on to kill 6,000 people on the island of St. Lucia and 9,000 on Martinique, with its capital city, St. Pierre, becoming almost completely demolished. It later moved northwestward toward the island of St. Eustatius, killing 4,000 to 5,000 and devastating Puerto Rico, Dominique, and Bermuda. The storm dissipated on or after October 18.[1]

Solano's Hurricane

A powerful hurricane in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico struck a Spanish war fleet of 64 vessels under José Solano en route from Havana, Cuba to attack Pensacola, Florida, then the capital of British West Florida. The ships had 4,000 men aboard under the military command of Bernardo de Gálvez, and 2,000 died.[8] The slow-moving hurricane, known to history as "Solano's hurricane", was first noted near Jamaica on October 15. Progressing northwestwards it likely crossed the western end of Cuba, before shifting northeastwards to Apalachee Bay. It struck Solano's fleet on October 20. According to Emanuel (2005), it dissipated somewhere over the southeastern United States around October 22,[1] but Chenoweth (2006) argues that it crossed the U.S. and finally dissipated over the North Atlantic on October 26.[9] It has likely been detected in tree-ring isotope records from Valdosta, Georgia.[10]

Lesser Antilles Hurricane

In late October, a tropical cyclone struck Barbados and then St. Lucia on October 23.[4][6]

New England Hurricane

Around November 17, a tropical cyclone moved up the east coast of the United States disrupting the British blockade of the New England states. It is unknown whether this storm was fully tropical.[6]

820 posted on 09/08/2017 5:31:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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